Comments on: SHANE MOSLEY: LEGEND OR GOOD FIGHTER?

By: wrecksracer

wrecksracer — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:40:04 +0000

He’s had a great career, but does anybody really think he could have beaten Aaron Pryor? Roberto Duran? Leonard? Hearns? (Floyd would have lost against these guys, too).

By: Joe G.

Joe G. — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:42:32 +0000

Shane has had a good career, and has been one of the better fighters at 135-147 lbs. for many years, but a LEGEND!! No way! Can you speak of him in the same breath as Alexis Arguello, Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler….Shane Mosley?? Just doesn’t sound right to me. No one can question his heart, willingness to fight the best, etc., but he’s had not one “legendary” fight to speak of. Can anyone really remember his fights with Oscar, his best wins? Tainted with the BALCO scandal, too. His wins against Mayorga, Vargas (2),Margarito, and Collazo amount to nothing historically. He only beat Oscar, whose questionable as a LEGEND himself. Legendary money maker, yes, but fighter? We are talking legendary in the HISTORY of boxing!!!! Shane Mosely?! Please!!! At 135 he looked like he had the potential to be a legend, but it just didn’t pan out. Comparing him to Mayweather doesn’t make him a legend either. PBF ain’t no legend, and called Mosley out years ago, but Shane wanted a vacation. PBF haters always forget about that. Hell, Shane was considered done after the Winky Wright fights, and he beats Margarito, and becomes legendary?

As for the steroids, Pedro asked about Mosley, not RJJ, Toney, Evander, etc. I’m sure the “roids” will come up in the discussions of their careers too. Not taking nothing away from Shanes exceptional career, I like the guy, but a legend? I say no.

By: THE MAN

THE MAN — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:53:39 +0000

Legend !!!! easy one there…This topic irks me man…Shane did what Floyd did 7 yrs. earlier and he did it better…! He is one of the few fighters that is willing to fight whoever wants a smack down unlike Floyd who avoids everybody but small guys…RESPECT THAT YA’ll!!Losing to guys like the late Forrest and then Wright is nothing to b ashamed of, really man everyone avoided those boys including Delahoya and we know Delahoya fights everyone and guess what ? He avoided them what does that tell u about Shane? That means Shane wants to test himself againts the best around again unlike Floyd…Right now Floyd is a hot topic but really look back and really think about what he has done!! other than Castillo and the late Corrales what has he done other than duck every threat there is from 140 to 147 man..! While Shane fought evreryone including guys Floyd is scared of…Floyd claim to fame is an old oscar that he barely beat then Hatton and now FEATHER W8 MARQUEZ …BOTTOM LINE IS SHANE IS A LEGEND AND HE SHOULD HAVE A STATUE OUTSIDE OF STAPLES CENTER NOT OSCAR…

By: Jaime

Jaime — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:33:57 +0000

LEGEND

By: wrecksracer

wrecksracer — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:40:08 +0000

They didn’t help Fernando Vargas much, either. People seem to be picking and choosing who they want to criticize. Mayweather seems to be using it as an excuse to not fight Mosely. There doesn’t seem to be any proof that Mosely has used them since the second De La Hoya fight.

By: Pedro Fernandez

Pedro Fernandez — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:13:50 +0000

What about Tyson?

By: wrecksracer

wrecksracer — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:58:57 +0000

Well, if you’re going to critcize Mosely for steroids, then you also have to criticize Roy Jones, James Toney, Evander Holyfield, Klitschko, etc.

Steroids do allow you to put on muscle mass, but it really hasn’t been proven to help a boxer box. Sure you can lift more. That type of strength doesn’t necessarily help you knock somebody out. I’ve heard it hinders endurance. Not defending Mosely, but exactly what did it do for him, other than increase his weight?

By: pirate

pirate — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:30:00 +0000

Hall of Famer.
Highly skilled.
Entertaining and in alot of good fights.

By: Lb 4 Lb

Lb 4 Lb — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:43:58 +0000

OOh okay now I got it. The title led me to think we’d get a balanced argument of whether Shane was a legend or not. Instead we got a slanted negative painting of him confirming he wasn’t. My bad, should have caught that the first time.

By: jaso Saredelis

jaso Saredelis — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 07:33:38 +0000

Shane 46-5,39Ko’s not only entered with a prestigious amateur career(below)
Amateur Record: 250-16
1989 United States Amateur champion at lightweight (132 lbs)
1989 World Junior Championships Silver Medalist in San Juan (PUR) (132 lbs)
1990 United States Amateur champion at lightweight (132 lbs)
1990 Goodwill Games Bronze Medalist in Seattle (USA) (132lbs)
1992 United States Amateur Champion at light welterweight (139 lbs)
Competed in the 1992 Olympic Trials, but lost a decision in the semi-finals against Vernon Forrest.
But went on to win five world titles beating Oscar DeLahoya twice, Antonio Margarito (avoide by Mayweather)has never avoided anyone with his only loses stepping up to fight Winky Wright and Vernon Forest twice and a very tight loss to Miguel Cotto in his home away from home Madison Square Garden.

You do the math!!!!

By: JW

JW — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 06:27:40 +0000

Mr ‘Lb 4 Lb’ check the headline of the article. That’s the point seeing you missed it.

By: Lb 4 Lb

Lb 4 Lb — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:46:14 +0000

I don’t get the point of this article. It’s like it’s criticizing Shane for being the tough, strong, fearless fighter that he is. All the article does is criticize everything Shane has done for the past few years including getting old. What’s the point of that? The guy criticizes Shane for knowing how to beat Mexican fighters and then later criticizes Shane because he thinks he won’t look good against a pure boxer. He then criticizes Shane for fighting Berto and in the very next paragraph says Shane is whinning because nobody wants to fight him! Well duh, that’s the reason he has to fight Berto genius. Also he brings up Roger Mayweather, one of the only people who picked Shane Mosley to beat Margarito, yet somehow, now, all of a sudden Margarito was tailor made for Shane. Then he tries to say Shane isn’t that good and nobody is afraid of him yet supposedly if he beats up Berto nobody would want to risk fighting him then even though Berto is supposed to be a bum according to him. This whole article is full of bias. I mean who is this guy some Floyd fan or what?

Let me explain something to you Mr Woods, you can nit pick almost any fighter in histories resume’ the way you just did to Shane’s. Trust me I’ve seen it done on many a message board. And next time you want to make an article that attempts to tear down a great fighter’s status do us all a favor and at least make a point. At least one, because through this whole article all I seemed to read was opinioniated assumptions and a bunch of bias.

By: Jim

Jim — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:43:15 +0000

Mosely is FAR from being a legend. He is a competent fighter who would not have cracked the top 10 in boxing’s heyday. He also seems to be a really good guy.

It is odd to me the way accolades are thrown around these days. The word “great” is attached to almost everyone and now we have “legend”. Calling someone who fights with big fat 10 ounce gloves in 12 round championship fights a legend is just wrong. Any fighter in the top 10 welterweights in the 40’s and 50’s would have beaten Shane and PBF to for that matter.
I mean no disrespect to todays fighters. Modern boxing is what it is but it does not make for legends. Maybe legends in their own mind in the case of PBF.

By: XKawN

XKawN — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:53:13 +0000

the 2 wins against oscar were better than any wins mayweather has on his record not to mention the guys shane has lost to were far better than anyone floyd has faced. this ridiculing shane for calling out the top guys is rediculous. if only the other top fighters had that same attitude. floyd fan has to try and break mosley down anyway they can so they can have an excuse to not fight him because little floyd would get beat down.

By: Kyle

Kyle — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:48:25 +0000

cheater, cheater steroid eater.

By: José-Ariel Cuevas

José-Ariel Cuevas — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:27:32 +0000

Well said, Big Chuck Shadowski. What irks me more than anything is the cognative dissonance employed by JW and every other Shane Moseley enthusiast out there.

By: FAV

FAV — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:26:45 +0000

I care big Chuck, I care..

By: big chuck shadowski

big chuck shadowski — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:38:28 +0000

This bugs me to no end. Who is a better home run hitter Aaron or Bonds. Mosely was a cheat and for some reason he seems to get a free walk. He is no different than Margarito. Look at Palmiero in baseball. The guy had over 500 homers and over 3000 hits and yet he won’t even get a sniff at the HOF. Plain and simple, Mosley probably cheated through out most of his career no one seems to even care.

By: Jesustheprofect

Jesustheprofect — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:28:52 +0000

Aside from a selected few, Mosley is one of the best in the last 20 years.
He fought all the good ones except for Trinidad and Whitaker. The prime welter version of Mosley beats the best welter version of Whitaker as Mosley would have been too strong. At lighweight the best version of Whitaker beats teh best version of Mosley. A younger Mosley beats Cotto 9 of ten times. Moreover, I thought Mosley beat Cotto in their first fight.

Winky was just too big and too strong for an undersize Mosley. The late Vernon Forest just had Mosley numbers just like Ken Norton had Ali’s numbers.

Mosley no doubt is a great fighter. Greater than Oscar, and Trinidad, but not as great as Chavez, Whitaker Floyd, Ricardo Lopez, RJJ or a Bernard Hopkins.

By: FAV

FAV — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:22:06 +0000

HGH??????????

By: jos

jos — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:48:11 +0000

shane is good but cotto is more better than him thats why he was loss to cotto…rematch should be the givenway….!! shane is good…really

By: Gary G

Gary G — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:50:21 +0000

Shane Mosley is one of the best fighters to have ever laced ‘em up.

He is also entertaining to watch.

Don’t forget that he beat Oscar twice when Goldie was still in his prime. I realize that was about the time of BALCO.

Legend.

By: José-Ariel Cuevas

José-Ariel Cuevas — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:41:35 +0000

“Marga-cheato”, haha, pretty clever. I suppose the “Sugar” in Shane’s nom de plum is the steroids he injected.

By: kissjonez

kissjonez — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:15:37 +0000

tsk..tsk..tsk..Y’all fools!Margarito is a beatable fighter! What made him special is his granite chin and that is all!Boxing skills nada! He is basically a nobody in boxing if he doesnt have them plaster like handwraps!So stop giving Mosley too much credit cause like I’ve said, Margarito is a beatable fighter without them handwraps!Infact Manny Pacquaio can beat Margarito via KO while singing “Candles in the Wind” in a Karaoke at the same time!

By: Michael

Michael — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:09:57 +0000

JW-
Shane Mosley is rated the number one Welterweight in the world currently. Unfortunately, in this day and age of boxing the best aren’t seeking him out, he’s seeking them out. That’s a problem. Writers contribute to this problem by not calling Mayweather, Cotto, Paquaio to fight this guy, but calling him out the true Champ for whining trying to get a fight with any of the three. The only reason these guys aren’t fighting him is because he is more of risk for all of them and in their eyes the three of them equal more money to fight each other rather than him. I’m kind of confused to why people say Mosley is not a big draw. The Margarito fight seemed to extremely well. Mosley has fought everybody and anybody that he should have throughout his career which is more than I could say for Mayweather. If Mosley beats Berto it definitely does add to his legacy especially because he’s unifying the belts. To me the best fight in boxing right now is Mosley vs. Mayweather. I hope Cotto beats Paquaio because he’s the only one that would most likely take on Mosley. I understand why Paquiao isn’t taking on Mosley right now and he hasn’t been fighting Welterweights long enough to criticize him, Cotto has already fought Mosley once so I respect him too andboth of these guys consistently fight the best, but Mayweather makes you ask yourself why isn’t the so called best pound for pound fighter not fighting the number one ranked guy in his own division?

By: Rubber Warrior

Rubber Warrior — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:04:14 +0000

Excellent article.

By: ironhammer

ironhammer — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:33:04 +0000

Legend.

By: bs

bs — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:19:38 +0000

mosley vs. williams. Let’s see what shane can do.