MANNY PACQUIAO SHOULD RETIRE NOW!

November 17th, 2010 By Pedro Fernandez

ASKING TOO MUCH OF EVEN SUPERMAN

Pacquiao Throwing, Margarito Catching

Pacquiao Throwing, Margarito Catching

San Francisco, CA- Having fought professionally now since President Bill Clinton’s first term, 15 years, Manny Pacquiao has went from rags to riches, from preliminary fighter to bring World champion in more weight classes than anyone else can claim, the fiery Filipino has done it all! And before you Pacnuts start swearing in Tagalog, did you hear Manny talking about how he was hurting after the fight?

ONE CAN’T FATHOM THE TRAINING

These grueling training camps both in Los Angeles and the Philippines in which Manny prepares for battle, you don’t see the pain, the sweat, the heart that goes into getting in the absolute best shape you can, this takes a lot out of you. The average fan watches three minutes of Manny training on TV and doesn’t realize it’s not as easy as it looks in the video clip.

PACQUIAO THE MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMP


NOT!

What does Manny have left to prove? Watching British TV’s coverage of Pacquiao-Margarito, they talked of him going to 160 lbs. and fighting at middleweight. As historical and glamorous as that sounds, Manny fighting either Sergio Martinez or Paul Williams, Pacquiao fighting either of those guys would just not be fair.

PACNUTS ARE COOL, BUT PACBUTTS ARE NOT!

I admire you Pacnuts, but don’t be Pacbutts and try and goad your guy into an unenviable position of fighting at 160. I think Manny is an amazing athlete, but there are instances in which size is insurmountable.

WATCHING MANNY BEATEN BY SIZE NOT WORTH IT

The acclaimed “king of boxing” is also a Philippine Congressman, something he takes great pride in. As much of a lift as Pacquiao is to the Philippine people, his getting starched or beaten down badly by a middleweight would be nightmarish.

MAYWEATHER FIGHT NO LONGER IMPORTANT!

With Floyd Mayweather Jr. being prosecuted on Domestic Violence charges, this in addition to his allegedly striking a security guard in recent days, I say to myself, “Who gives a s*it about Floyd Mayweather anyway?”

PACMAN IN TOTAL CONTROL OF BOXING

If he wants to fight Pacquiao, promoter Bob Arum should make it an Asian based event in either the Philippines or Macau, and make feaful Floyd cross the pond to do so!

NOTHING LEFT BUT A “MOP UP” OF J.M. MARQUEZ!

Although his style had proved extremely difficult for Pacquiao, in drawing and losing on points in two fights, Juan Manuel Marquez is the only guy out there for Pacman. Fight JMM at 140 and say goodbye Manny.

LOOK AT OSCAR AFTER THE PAC FIGHT

You can do what both Ray Leonard and Oscar De La Hoya swore they’d never do, go out of boxing with a devastating loss, of which they both did. Pacman, let history and common sense be guide your guide here!

Pedro Fernandez

COMMENTS

  1. Pedro,

    can’t agree more with you!!! It’s time to go for Manny! Although he won the fight with Marg – I’ve never seen Manny as spent and hurting after a fight. As onesided as the fight was – this fight and its preparation put a lot of miles on Manny. Much more than any fight before!

    All of us would love to see Manny perform for another couple of years – but it’s definetly time to go for him. Let’s hope he & his people see it the same way.

    Ante on November 17th, 2010 at 9:24 AM
  2. I agree 100%, He has reached the top of the food chain 8 times now, nothing short of historic I must say. If “Money” will fight, and I say IF, It should be on Manny’s terms! If not then I say hang up the gloves and put on your suit and tie and continue helping the people of your great country! I see the love and respect the people of his country have for him they need him!!

    Plus when he has a fight coming up the Gym Closes half the day cutting into my training time lol. just joking

    Great Job Pac-Man and Freddie Roach
    Tristen Miller
    Hollywood CA

    Tristen on November 17th, 2010 at 9:52 AM
  3. I think he sees the end coming also. I think Floyd is the only fight that can really motivate him now.

    With all the action at 140 he should take on whoever emerges there next or JMM in a grudge match.

    He probably wants to stop fighting so he can focus on his public service; but it’s hard to turn down the payday’s he’s in line for every time he fights.

    TK on November 17th, 2010 at 10:03 AM
  4. The 8th weight class was a gimmick to fill in the vacant slot, and Arum probably overreached himself and Manny despite the victory. Let him stick to his natural size or give up. Napoles-Monzon, Foster-Frazier. Bad ideas.

    Antonino on November 17th, 2010 at 12:53 PM
  5. I think Manny vs Marquez @ 140 is the fight to make,but if my memory serves me correct Marquez said he wanted Manny to do drug testing like Floyd.I think if Manny retires Floyd may as well take a permanent vacation as well, more and more people are coming to the conclusion he is scared of Manny.

    Floyd to Security Guard “What the f**k you say! When am I going to fight Manny? Take this B***h”(poking guard in face).

    I ask the public to please not ask Floyd about Manny.We need him to fight Manny and not you!

    RIO001 on November 17th, 2010 at 1:12 PM
  6. Manny can make so much money fighting anyone! So why doesn’t he completely clean out the welterweight division: fight Berto, Mosley and whoever else – he’ll probably make at least $10M per fight and it’ll probably be relatively easy work for him.

    When he’s done that, Floyd has to fight him, testing or no testing and it will be the biggest money fight ever. Manny could easily make $50 million from cleaning out whoever at welterweight and then taking floyd as the final fight of his career.

    It’s tough life being a fighter, but that’s a lot of clams.

    warren on November 17th, 2010 at 2:47 PM
  7. Marquez and Manny, thats always a good matchup. Marquez is deserving and he should chop up Kastidis.

    bigdig on November 17th, 2010 at 4:08 PM
  8. It would be interesting to hear what Pedro thinks of the “rehabiliation” of Margarito’s reputation after his willingness to take a beating against Pacquaio. Dallas Cowboy owner Jerry Jones called him a great warrior and told him “you have a friend for life.” Does the beating make up for the hand wraps? Of course, in Texas they seem to treat capital punishment as a sport, but will the entire nation now embrace hands-of-plaster?

    Antonino on November 17th, 2010 at 4:17 PM
  9. He’s still, Antonio “POS” Margarito!

    Pedro Fernandez on November 17th, 2010 at 4:31 PM
  10. Yeah retire now cause ARUM and Roach are out of big names that just got KTFO or just loss in their previous fight to put Manny in with.

    All that’s left now is JMM who they fought life and death with Twice(Manny lost both times).

    All that’s left now is African American young guns that can match Manny’s foot speed and quickness. They don’t want no part of that cause if they did they would have done it already.

    All that’s left is King Kong PBF. They will take that fight the $$$$$ is just to good to turn down.

    Yes quitting now makes sense. Cause it’s all down hill from here for Manny. The miles are going to add up real quick from here on out.

    Arum’s stable is fresh out of damages goods.

    James Moss on November 17th, 2010 at 4:32 PM
  11. I think there are only two fights for Manny IF he wants to continue fighting. Floyd and JMM are the only fights that will get him motivated. I think Pacs best weight is probably 140 (I know Freddie Roach said he won’t fight under 147), at 140 he will rehydrate to about 145 to 147 and be stronger compared to other 140 pounders. He definitely should not go to 160. He is too small to deal with legit Middle weights.
    I don’t think Bradley or Alexander could handle his power at 140, and I wouldn’t waste my time against Mosley or Berto (who needs to step up his competition level). A Berto fight may be very interesting because of the hand speed that Berto has. But as an older champ winding down, sometimes you want to stay away from the hungry young lions if the money isn’t right. Pac doesn’t have anything else to prove.

    Jrock09 on November 17th, 2010 at 4:50 PM
  12. This is a tricky period for Manny. He doesn’t need to go up…6 footers with speed, pop and youth will be his undoing…he doesn’t need Moseley and Moseley doesn’t deserve the payday nor does JMM..come on..that is old hat and boring..like it or not it’s scoreboard 1 draw…1 Pac win…If Floyd doesn’t fight then Manny just needs to call it a day..he has nothing left to prove. Sooner or alter the people he works for need his attention full time..now is that perfect time. Manny is one of the greatest in the figh game..something tells me he will be even better as a politician and a light for his people…Mabuhay Manny Pacquiao…

    Michael B on November 17th, 2010 at 5:06 PM
  13. JMM and Pac should fight at a catchweight of 139lbs for a heavyweight title!

    rh on November 17th, 2010 at 5:22 PM
  14. rh, thats the best comment i’ve heard in a while..lol

    KP on November 17th, 2010 at 8:13 PM
  15. @Bigdig
    What if Katsidis beat JMM, would that make him undeserving to fight pac?

    dencio on November 17th, 2010 at 9:54 PM
  16. How about Medgoen Singsurat at 137?

    Jaime on November 18th, 2010 at 12:07 AM
  17. Pedro,

    why are you ignoring Berto?.
    Berto has the goods. Before Manny retires, he need to fight Berto. why? not for themselves but you cannot deny that that will be a spectacular fight?
    come on Manny, one more. win or lose. Congress will not go away. If they kick you out, then run again, this time for the senate. But please learn and practice your english first.

    youforgotthisguy on November 18th, 2010 at 8:22 AM
  18. Forget Floyd…he isn’t deserving. I don’t need to see that fight anymore.

    Let Manny retire financially secure to do the Peoples’ work in Congress, faculties in tact. Nothing left to prove.

    Bud on November 18th, 2010 at 9:43 AM
  19. Sorry BUTT he has to prove he hasn’t proved he can beat a black skilled American fighter. He does that then he proved everything.

    Roberto rios on November 18th, 2010 at 1:48 PM
  20. Manny can’t retire he hasn’t found they guy who’s going to replace him for his country. You know how many filipinos got drawn to boxing because of him? If he retires they are done for. Donaire maybe but seems like he won’t be getting a marquee matchup until he is thirty.

    TT on November 18th, 2010 at 3:04 PM
  21. @dencio,

    If Katsidis beats JMM, Katsidis gets much props. Depends on the manner in which JMM loses and how he perfoms. If JMM gets walked on, a fight with Manny would be hard pressed to make. I’m still of the opinion that JMM can compete at an elite level and give Manny fits based on skill and technique. I would like to see Katsidis fight Funeka if Katsidis was to win…that would be a barn burner. Funeka still the goods at lightweight in my opinion. Other than JMM its Floyd for Manny, but I’ld take Berto or winner of Bradley/Alexander if JMM or Floyd can’t be signed. Though some aren’t interested in Manny vs. Berto/Bradley/Alexander, a victory over any of them would garner Manny much respect amongst the boxing community. A victory over Mosley would bring scorn. Its funny how Manny was ripped for fighting David Diaz instead of Juan and rightfully so. I think Juan would have been dispatched of earlier than David Diaz. But thats hindsite.

    bigdig on November 18th, 2010 at 3:17 PM
  22. Money May wivll thrash pacman. Just because you dont like mayweather means you are reacting without intellect. Better defensive fighter with great speed. Pac got hit more against margo than he has even been hit. Money may will pop shot pacman allnite and finish him off in the 9th or 10Th round.

    ratedjersey on November 18th, 2010 at 4:13 PM
  23. Mayweather is the biggest coward in boxing. Ever since his first loss I mean tough fights with Castillo he has been the biggest ducker in boxing. I don’t like pac at all but mayweather is 100 times worse than pac choosing opponents that have no shot. I hope that coward stays away from boxing and keeps on beating smaller people like his wife and kids.

    TT on November 18th, 2010 at 5:06 PM
  24. I’m curious to see the early shot Floyd took vs. Shane will affect him the same way Rosario’s bomb affected Camacho. Second guessing, flinching rather than rolling away and coming back. It’s easy to forget how good Camacho might have been (and his personality was as obnoxious as Floyd’s). He also had other bad habits. . . yet look how long he’s hung around.

    Antonino on November 18th, 2010 at 5:07 PM
  25. I agree with you Pedro. Perhaps a fight with Marquez at 140-147 lbs one more time and that’s it retire!!!

    He already proved to the world that he is the greatest boxer of his generation. He already made his mark and perhaps down the road boxing experts will call him Pacquiao – the greatest boxer of all time!

    Seggiepacquing on November 18th, 2010 at 5:19 PM
  26. I agree that Pac has entered a special danger zone, given the amount of time he spends doing things other than boxing. He doesn’t want to taint his legacy by halfheartedly signing for a fight, undertraining, and then getting whipped. The chances of such a thing happening are especially great if he keeps fighting big guys. Personally, I’d like to see more of Pac, if he’s willing to keep training, but I’d prefer 140 pound fights. That division is stacked with talent! Pac can line up years of great matchups if he is motivated to stick around.

    whiner on November 18th, 2010 at 8:30 PM
  27. 1 more please.. then that would be it.. floyd step up now!!

    but.. its almost impossible..

    From On the Ropes Episode 100: Floyd Sr. now demands that in addition to the previous blood testing demands, Pacquiao must consent to having members of Mayweather’s camp visit him during training to observe him at any time. Of course, Floyd would allow the same!

    some qoutes:
    “I tell my son not to fight him… I have my reason why i don’t want him to fight that man”

    “My son if he fights that little man, I’m concern for my sons life”

    “I can’t believe Pac took out Hatton in two while my son took him out in 10 rounds.”

    “Pac has missiles on his hands, and if he hits you… you’re going down!”

    no fighter ive seen in the history of sports has shown us what it should be.. his carrying of margo in the last 2 rounds isnt just a pity shown to a fellow human.. but a level of pugilism where no one has touch.. this is how good manny is… he is a cerebral masterpiece of war and humanity..

    in terms of boxing…

    he just put boxing in a solid perspective.. with dignity and class..

    its a brutal entertainment..yet its irony didnt exist here..

    wow! that is just another level.. we dont have to kill each other, we can be entertaining and brutal yet we can be respectful with dignity and class

    thats manny pacquiao folks.. you dont have to give him the P4P and GOAT..

    but YOU OWE HIM HIS RESPECT

    i am mekiko

    mekiko on November 18th, 2010 at 10:42 PM
  28. To all of those black racist bastards talking about how Pacquaio can’t beat a black fighter — you guys need to check yourself before dishing out sh*t you’ve been complaining about all of these years. Just cause you’re black doesn’t give Mayweather, Hopkins, or any of these racist the right to say these racist remarks.

    And those that think Pacquaio would lose to Mayweather — how in the hell would Mayweather be able to take the punches that Pacquaio would hit him with. And before anybody talks about how Mayweather would out-slick and outbox him, just remember how fast and the fighting/boxing I.Q. that Pacquaio has right now. There is no way that Mayweather would be able to stay away from him for entire round much less an entire fight.

    At this point, I don’t really know how Mayweather could win.

    warriorzpath on November 19th, 2010 at 1:42 PM
  29. Pac will never fight Floyd. We all know he’s on steroids and will never take the test! Get off the ‘roids, Pacman.

    OG on November 19th, 2010 at 4:03 PM
  30. People need to stop implying as Pac as the goat I hate hearing it. Look if Duran, Leonard, Chavez, Arguello and all these greats were in there prime right now guess what pac wouldn’t fight them. He could barely get past an old JMM. Imagine if JMM was in his prime in their second fight he wouldn’t even be able to get past him. All this goat crap needs to stop. Yes he has beaten bigger fighters but none were in their prime. Actually ODLH weighed 147 on fight night and pac weighed 149 guess what pac was the bigger man in that fight.

    TT on November 19th, 2010 at 4:18 PM
  31. Forget arguing about greatest and all of that. I don’t see a lot of weaknesses to Pac’s game right now. There is one that sticks out– he’ll take some shots, for a few reasons:
    (1) to dish some more powerful shots out himself
    (2) to make it exciting (reason #1)
    (3) to prove to the other fighter he is tougher, to get his respect

    Mayweather vs. Pacquiao -> advantage=Pacquiao hands down.

    Both are accurate, fast, have ring generalship, have boxing IQ, and have power. While Mayweather tries to be more elusive with his ring generalship, Pacquiao uses his ring generalship to set up his punches from different angles. The main differences between the 2 is style and proven toughness/chin. Pacquaio prefers and always is looking to finish fights while on the offensive. Mayweather is more elusive and seems to prefer the decision. Pacquaio will try to impose his style and will on Mayweather and he seems to be the tougher and more determined of the two.

    Mayweather hasn’t faced anything close to what Pacquaio is going to give him, and on the other hand Pacquaio has been challenging himself with every fight in the last few years with bigger, stronger, and tougher opponents. Pacquaio will either knock him out or be overwhelming control of the fight by 8 or 9 rounds.

    warriorzpath on November 19th, 2010 at 6:04 PM
  32. If Manny can’t get May into a ring for his NEXT FIGHT… Then I believe he should retire. Beyond Mayweather, he’s got NOTHING more to show, nothing more to prove and a Hall of Fame acceptance speech to get working on.

    Despite the fact that most pundits feel May would likely beat Pac… I think it obvious by now that many more would tell you that Mayweather is reluctant to accept the challenge based solely on the fact that Pacquiao is far too great a THREAT!

    With all the legal troubles mounting (not just him but Uncle Roger) and the windows closing… May’s got one brief chance to pull this off and my spider senses tell me that he won’t make any attempt to do it…

    Jack Dunne on November 19th, 2010 at 7:27 PM
  33. if the fight with floyd cant be made then pac should consider retirement but who wants to see that. of all the things manny has accomplished, retiring now would be one of the most impressive. I mean cmon how many fighters actually retire at this point in their careers where pac is right now. the only fighter i can think of in recent memory was ricardo ‘finito’ lopez who still was the best fighter in his weight class but retired before he started going down hill. the only guy besides floyd who i think could have taken pac was the late edwin valero r.i.p but that will never happen so i hope floyd steps up if not his legacy will be hurt tremendously.

    jose vargas on November 19th, 2010 at 11:24 PM
  34. EMMANUEL PACQUIAO, showed us what boxing should be, in a level where humanity exist in a brutal entetainment.. with dignity and class

    THE PATRON OF BOXING

    ST. EMMANUEL PACQUIAO

    i am mekiko

    mekiko on November 20th, 2010 at 1:36 AM
  35. … and guess what — in the same way mayweather is subconsciously, mysteriously, and deciding to chose to sabotage the fight with Pacquiao (and don’t get it twisted, this is all what’s going on) — Mayweather is defense first for a reason: he’s hiding a deficiency with his toughness and chin. And Mayweather will be exposed for that when or if he fights Pac, in more than one way. Just remember the gameplan and boxing IQ that Roach brings to the table in preparing for a fight. Pair that with Pacquiao close to being at his mental and physical boxing peak — all of it is going to be a perfect storm coming right at mayweather. Will he have the heart and chin? My guess and the mayweather camp’s guess is — nope. They have already said as much when they accuse Pacquiao of taking steroids. If they were confident that mayweather has the style and skill to beat Pacquiao, then they wouldn’t worry about the steriods at all. But there’s some real concern with Pacquiao’s style getting the best of Mayweather and exposing his chin.

    There’s something that most experts underestimate and totally discount when they consistently pick against Pacquiao: how smart he is in the ring. They all equate intelligence with being articulate. With Roach’s preparation and Pacquiao’s fight IQ, there is no way that mayweather is not going to be hit; he’s going to get hit– and get hit a lot.

    warriorzpath on November 20th, 2010 at 2:24 AM
  36. Manny only has 4 major titles and these paper titles and vacant belts will leave his legacy tarnished.Manny needs to take on real challengers or retire.I am sick of him fighting washed up has beens!! Manny isn’t the best of all times,he isn’t even the best of this era.I can not understand how Roach can call fighters washed up and Manny still get credit for beating these bums.

    sean on November 20th, 2010 at 8:38 AM
  37. Berto has some physical skills but is too mechanical to give Pacquaio real trouble. I’m with Jack Dunne on this. Either Mayweather or politics. Too many guys get sucked in for a few more paydays, and live to regret it. Freddy R readily admits he wished he had retired a few fights earlier. His opinion that both Pacman and Margarito should consider hanging them up is the voice of sad experience–though in the case of Margarito, add a little gloating after the mocking video.

    Antonino on November 20th, 2010 at 5:02 PM
  38. ONE THING WHY Pacquiao keeps on winning is his STYLE. The angles of most of his punches don’t subscribe to the patterns of orthodox boxing, save alone for his jabs. Not to mention his footwork and his being a southpaw. His punches are coming from “unexplored” or weird angles. He also has this ringmanship where he knows when to attack and avoid counterpunching (something he learned from the skilled counterpuncher Juan Manuel Marquez.

    Pacman has achieved a lot and CAN absolutely retire now with his reputation already cemented on the history. Of course, as a fan of boxing, I would love Pacman to fight Mayweather… and maybe Berto.

    Hammstein on November 21st, 2010 at 11:04 PM
  39. Hey OG you qoute “we all know Pac is on steroid” How in heaven can you say something as stupid as that. You fxxk you should say ” we all THINK Pac is in steroid. Man the word is think, its all a perception you moron. Someone like you including Floyd Sr. think that Pac is so superbly astonishing fighter that he must be on steroid. Nobody is saying but Pac haters like you. Quit being Floyd Sucker. Floyd I think he is too scared to tarnish his Zero loss reputation that he is resulting to all these sorts of girlish games to stay away from Pac and I hardly find faults him doing that. Again, I think fighting Pac will be his DOOMSDAY and WATERLOO I am not kidding. And if fighting Pacman, doesn’t take place in 2011 then a plague of ” THE MOTHER OF ALL DUCKERS” should be bestowed upon him. Copy that OG

    Barack OB on November 22nd, 2010 at 2:04 PM
  40. GIve Mosley a shot then do it,. Forget Floyd.
    Checkout www/StrictlyBusinessBoxing.com

    Kevin Baker on November 23rd, 2010 at 3:44 AM
  41. @BARACK OB…PUSSY…just like how ya’lll KNOW Floyd is scared, we KNOW manny is taking performance enhancing drugs, hence his reluctance to undergo random blood and urine tests to PROVE otherwise!!!

    prikpac on July 3rd, 2011 at 5:21 AM
  42. MANNY’S NOT that great. If he were 2 lose wouldnt really be a surprise being that hes been knocked out 2wice already….by nobodies!!!

    prikpac on July 3rd, 2011 at 5:24 AM
  43. the more i read u pacfag comments, the more i realise U REALLY DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT BOXING…I READ A COMMENT SAYING ‘FLOYD IS SO DEFENSIVE BECAUSE HE HAS NO HEART OR CHIN….R U FUCKIN SERIOUS????? PPL LIKE U SHOULDNT EVEN BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK WHEN THE TOPIC OF BOXING ARISES, REALLY!!!…IF MANNY WAS MORE DEFENSIVE, BUMS LIKE TORRECAMPO AND SINGSURAT WOULDNT OF PUT HIS ASS ON THE CANVAS!!! MANNY IS AN OK FIGHTER, BUT TO EVEN PUT HIM IN SAME EQUATION AS FLOYD IS ALMOST DISRESPECTFUL!! FLOYD AND MANNY R LIKE 9 & 10 SEC SPRINTERS RESPECTIVLEY….2 DIFFERENT CLASSES…PLUS, THERE R TOO MANY QUESTION MARKS HANGING OVER THE HEAD OF MANNY’S CARRER LIKE, “Y ALL THE CATCHWEIGHT FIGHTS”, “Y ALL THE VACATED BELTS”, “Y FIGHT ALREADY BEATEN, OLD , OVER-THE-HILL FIGHTERS” AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, “Y NO SUBMISSSION TO RANDOM BLOOD AND URINE TESTS-U GOT SUMM’N TO HIDE?”…SOMETHING U WOULDNT WANT THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO FIND OUT??? WHAT????…O RIGHT , UR SCARED OF NEEDLES!!???? MEANS UR MORE OF A BITCH THAN FLOYD KUZ ONE THING FLOYD AINT SCARED OF IS NO DAMN NEEDLE OR DRUG TEST!!!!!

    prikpac on July 3rd, 2011 at 5:47 AM

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