BREAKING DOWN PACMAN’S DOMINANCE OF CLOTTEY
March 16th, 2010 By Jarrad Woods
DOES MANNY’S WIN SETS UP SUPERFIGHT?
New York, NY- Saturday’s fight between Manny “Pound for Pound” Pacquiao (51-3-2 38 KOs) and Joshua Clottey (35-4 20 KOs) ended with far less fanfare than expected. On the positive side the bout did showcase the fact that Pacquiao is still an extraordinary fighter. The negatives are he is hittable and beatable at welterweight (147 lbs). While it would be hard to bet against Manny versus any top welter, there may be only two men left in the division who can beat him.
BOTH FLOYD & SHANE CAN BE “HEADACHES” FOR PAC!
Of course I am talking about Floyd “Money” Mayweather and “Sugar Shane” Mosley. These two fighters have styles that couldn’t be more different, and have held their own against the best in the sport for over ten years. Only time will tell which fighter will end up with the chance of corralling the Philippine’s national treasure in the fall or early 2011.
CLOTTEY LOSS: SHUTOUT OR EXPOSURE?
Watching the fight live in a bar in Harlem did not provide the privilege of being influenced by what I found out to be lame ass commentary from Jim Lampley, Max Kellerman and Emanuel Steward. From my seat, it appeared that Manny was consistently throwing barrages into Clottey’s guard, but they rarely got in with any serious damage. Sure Manny won the bout but the one sided scorecards reflected more of Manny’s pressure than points scored for landing clean punches. Manny’s face also looked more bruised at the end of the fight and certainly did not spell out ‘winner’ as it has in his recent welterweight bouts that ended in stoppage.
MANNY’S FUTURE IN HANDS OF JUDGES?
It might seem to be a moot point concerning whether Clottey won more rounds than recorded in a losing effort to the Pacman. But when you consider Manny’s possible future opponent, Floyd Mayweather there is something to be said about how the potential bout can be scored.
OSCAR & RICKY GOT POINTS FOR AGGRESSION
Although Mayweather remained virtually unscathed leading to his knock out over Ricky Hatton, HBO judge Harold Letterman and other official judges at ringside found rounds to give Hatton even though he wasn’t landing clean. I can also remember the scoring dynamics involved in the bout between Oscar De La Hoya and Mayweather. The bout ended in a split-decision as one judge scored the aggressive (see ineffective) activity of Oscar over the clean punches landed by Mayweather. If you recall, a conflicted Floyd Mayweather Sr. himself had difficulty explaining who he thought won. He said that if the bout was scored like it is done in the amateurs then Oscar should have won. And if it is scored at like the professional ranks (like it was) it was clear that the nod should go to his son.
PACQUIAO: GREAT FIGHTER OR BEST EVER?
Manny has already solidified himself as a hall of fame fighter. But to elevate himself into the upper echelon of all time greats, he must beat Floyd Mayweather and or Shane Mosley. Certainly if he were to knock either fighter out, or both, he would be mentioned with the likes of “Sugar Ray” Robinson and Muhammad Ali as one of the greatest boxers ever. But if it goes to the cards, especially against Mayweather, I wonder whose style would sway the judges more. The answer to that just might be the determining factor in proving Manny’s supremacy at welter and his position as his all time status in the history of the sport.
Jarrad Woods
I don’t think that MayRunner would be able to pot-shot Manny from the outside, or leap in with a check left hook, which are 2 big parts of Floyd’s offense.
Hey Jarrad! I’m a big Pac supporter, but I’m definitely bugged by this fight. Was it a fix??? Here are some issues:
(1) Clottey sold himself short. He’s better than that. He chose not to let his hands go. Why didn’t he even try to win this fight?
(2) Clottey is much bigger than Pac and very strong. How can a big guy be so reluctant to measure his strength against a little guy?
(3) Clottey probably made more money (over the table) for this fight than for all the rest of his fights combined. Was there any under the table money?
(4) Arum is reported to have said that Clottey was a “good loser.” Argh! What on earth does that mean?
What do you think, was it a fix?
Clottey fought the most piss poor fight I have seen in a long time. He gave me nightmares of watching Tyson dance around the ring with James “Bonecrusher” Smith. The only thing Clottey showed the world is that he could not and would not be knocked out by Manny.
I don’t know what a fight with either Mosley or Mayweather would play out against Manny but I do know it would be better than what Clottey did. Mosley is too prideful to just stand there and take a beating like that and he would fire back. If Manny were to stand there and let Mosley tee off on him the way he challenged Cotto, it might not be in his favor. Mayweather would make adjustments after a few rounds to close the gap between him and Manny. Mayweather has used his tactics in the ring against his past opponents because he knows it worked against them. When forced to be aggressive he will be. Mosley would definitely slug it out until either he or Manny hit the canvas.
I would hate to call a fight a ‘fix’ without any proof as a writer but ‘broke’ is an appropiate term for Clottey in this fight. Whether is was Joshua’s will or simply his pockets prior to the bout (leading to a piss poor performance just for the payday) is only speculation. Joshua sure didn’t look too disappointed after the fight though.
@ JW
I agree with u that Clottey didnt look too disappointed after the fight, infact he was smiling. I have seen Clottey fighting Margarito and he did give a good shot, he fought him until injury forced him to lose the fight. Clottey is definitely better than that and i also smell a fish. When the fight was announced i was surprised coz Manny avoids black guys and i really dont think he would take such a risky guy like Clottey especially as he is still targeting Mayweather. I was indeed answered on Saturday and i think Clottey is having a good laugh and he was paid well by Arum. did u see Arum after the fight, he said what did u expect Clottey to do, he didnt criticise Clottey at all.
Manny came in with superb conditioning ang strategy. He came to fight and executed his strategy at the highest level. This fight to me shows just how good Manny is compared to Clottey. A great, great fighter versus a good fighter. If Manny fought to a lower level and made the fight seemed competitive and got a hard earned decision, you would probably say “what a fight! what a fighter in manny pacquiao!” But this is Manny. He comes and performs at the highest level so I give all credit to him. He has done his part, Clottey has done his part too because that was his style. HE JUST CANT MATCHED PAC’s speed and power!!!! AND I TOTALLY Disagree with you that for Manny to be All time great, he should fight and beat May or Mosley!! He earned his place already as All time great, beating some of the best boxers -barrera, morales, marquez, hatton, cotto, etc.. Fighters greatness are judged by the quality of their opponents. Between May and Pac, who do you think fought the better fighters????????
Asking for Clottey to throw more
punches and be more aggressive is
like asking Paulie Malignaggi to
become a KO artist; it’s an
impossibility. Clottey fights a
certain way because that’s who he
is. Manny tore him to bits
You are already looking for excuses for Floyd losing to Manny! Manny now has to KO both Shane and Floyd to be “great”? What about the body of work that he has amassed? KO’s of Sasakul(bet you don’t know this guy), Ledwaba, Barerra, Morales, dela Hoya, Hatton and Cotto(pitch in David Diaz). Decisions against Marquez, Larios and now Clottey. Winning 7 divisional Championships straddling 9 weight divisions from his first World Championship (flyweight to welter). OK I think Manny will oblige! Just convince your homey Floyd to sign the contract and quit being a pussy and fight Manny so he can be put to sleep like the dog that he is!
Examin the fight of clottey with figthers that aren;t too fast to move out, like margarito, cotto, and zab. Clottey usually does his counter punching after they unload, why? because they are there to be hit….
Look at when clottey let his hands go, Pacquiao caught him with some good 4-5 countershots, Clottey did his best but Pacquiao is just on a different level, all you so called boxing fans especially die-hard boxing fans should be able to tell the difference.
Mosley is willing to fight Pacquiao, but Mayweather, I guess we should not expect.
to elevate manny to the top echelon of all time greats, he must beat floyd and mosley? WOW!!! how would you explain that? manny has been beating the best fighters from flyweight up to welterweight divisions, fighters bigger and stronger than him and yet he still needs to beat a self proclaimed greatest fighter of all time who has not even face and beaten at least the top 5 best from his current weight class, the likes of margarito, mosley, cotto, williams or even clottey?
maybe if manny is an american, he will already be considered among the top greats like dela hoya and mayweather even if he retires now… but his is not… and if he is performing well, he must be using performance enhancing drugs! and IN AMERICA the burden of showing proof lies heavily on the shoulder of the accussed!
By your Logic then my Neighbor is the Greatest Fighter of All Time, Gene Fullmer because he beat Sugar Ray TWICE, Lost only ONCE and Drawed Once.
PAC would eat Gene alive and I love GENE but its the Truth!
1. Hmmmm, Manny didn’t look so “ripped” as in his previous fights???
2. This fight was very boring to Manny, case in point, he got lazy,hands down, heads up.
3. In fighting like that, well, he got smacked a few times (see scar under right eye).
4. Question; what will happen when he fights Floyd or Shane?
5. Answer; It would be a hellofafight!!
6. Everybody must remember, “Styles make fight”!!!
7. Had it been Floyd vs Clottey, it would have been even worst.
8. Give Manny credit for (trying to) making it a fight.
9. Floyd vs Clottey Naah! two defensive fighters would be such a yawner!!!
10. Against Floyd or Shane, Manny would be more focused and alert.
11. Clottey was putting Manny to sleep.
All that being said…… I’ll take Floyd over Manny.
why do people belittle the body punches landed by Pacquiao. if you have a 12 year boy let him punch you 200 times in the body and see if you like it. . . only, Pacquiao is not a 12 year old neophyte.
For me it’s plain and simple-if Floyd Mayweather Jr. is the best boxer on the planet as he claims he is, then just fight Pacquiao PED (assumptio non probata) or no PED. oR WHY DOESN’T HE APPEAL TO THE BOXING BODY that they might change the rules for a fight of this magnitude to make the fight happen instead of publicly denigrating Pacquiao. I am sure Pacquiao will bend to what the boxing body will say.
Manny Pacquiao doesn’t have to fight Floyd in order to reach your so-called “Upper echelons of all time greats” Are you stupid? or just a plain moron? Manny Pacquiao is already there. If anything you should improve your writing skills to get into the upper echelons of sportswriting. You say Floyd and Shane would be a headache for Pac? I say Pac would be more than a headache for Floyd and Shane. Despite your article seemingly acknowledging Pacquiao’s accomplishment, it is also very obvious that you hate the man. Yep, you carefully hide it but it manifests itself in the overall tone of your article. You clearly don’t like Manny Pacquiao and would have preferred to write articles glorifying you idol Floyd the Chicken Mayweather. It is very obvious dude. Try harder….
Jarrad,
beating Sugar and Fraud are great great achievements but beating these guys to be considered as All Time Greats? hahahaha! funny suggestion! your statement is an insult to the guys beaten by the PACMAN. you are discounting their own greatness (esp Morales and Barrera who i think are greater than Fraud Mayflower because of thier courage inside the ring). And may i ask, who are you to bestow the All Time Great to someone. Let the public esp those boxings expert who make boxing relevant, make a unanimous decision who is All Time Great. Anyway, the PACMAN is already considered Fighter of the Decade.
PAC loves the fans and PAC wanted to give a good show, after the second round PAC realizes that Clottey won’t open up and fight and just stay on his shell. So to make the fight exciting and encourage Clottey to open up PAC lets himself to get hit much like he did in the Cotto fight. To make it simple PAC receiving the hard punches from Clottey was intentional on PAC’s side. As a boxing writer you should know this.
If that fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr. ultimately doesn’t happen, perhaps Manny will retire from boxing and move on to another dimension ( could be in the political arena). I understand his mother is appealing for him to stop fighting. That may be the day when Mayweather trumpets his unopposed greatness and most probably will go on trash talking Pacquiao.
what happened to clottey was almost the case of oscar. look, oscar tried the same to fight with manny but was probably outskilled. oscar looked broke when can’t land his hands on pac’s face. manny style is just so difficult to catch and his awkward fighting position is just what clottey has experienced recently. cotto was in the same situation. there were times that he was attacking manny but when manny turns to new angles, too late for cotto to regain his composure. it was something clottey found difficult to deal with, so he settled not to be knocked out.
Comments on this site can really get out of hand. Few of the guys here probably bothered to look at the slow motion replays to get the inside story. Clottey was factually a discouraged fighter. He came into the bout with the game plan that the Pacman would tire enough for him to use his middleweight-level size and strength for his counter-attacks.
What happened?
He got hurt; he denies it but he got hurt by the 100 punch per round blitz. Now, he is saying that some spoiled Ghanaian food made him sh*t his stomach out; it was actually the fear of being knocked out before 51,000 people and the jumbotron that made him diarrhea’s poster boy. He knew that if he took the risks of opening up and going to war with the Pacman that he will probably not survive it. Pacman factually prepared for an all-out war with Clottey; you can ask his trainers about this
Absolute proof that he was forced to submit the MMA way are undeniable: his trainer de Jesus told him to throw more punches as he was losing, but he replied by shaking his head. Further, Joshie also said that the Pacman fight was one he really lost.
This is also the warning for all of you Floydie believers; Floydie does not have the physical strength or quickness now to mount a better defense than Joshie against the Pacman’s classical B-52 carpet bombing and daisy-cutting. The Pacman has no reason to kill Joshie, but he has every reason to make sure that Floydie lies — aah a word that full befits him — lifeless on the Tecate canvas.
The Last Fight Of Manny Vs. Clottey Is Fix….Yes…..
Its Just another Fight Hype for Future Fight For Pacman..
And to Show Floydie The Self Proclaim Great Boxer KFC
How He React and do the fight on MAy 1 Vs Shane….
1 thing is Sure Floydie now can no longer sleep hahahaha
why did this came out as a boring fight? it’s simple . Clottey knows that slugging with Pac would be suicide so he became defensive. Pac knows that clottey’s plan is to time him and land one big one so he implemented ” controlled aggression “.
I DON’T THINK THE FIGHT IS FIXED, although Clottey might have not really given his best against Pac. Perhaps he saw himself being beaten whether KO or points, and resort to rather choose to get beaten without getting KO. So he put all his mind to toughen his defense and just hope for that “lucky” shot. And by being able to go the distance and not lost by knock out by boxer considered to be the best in this era, Clottey retained his “marketability,” more than that of the likes of Hatton, Cotto, Diaz, et all whose career took sudden dive because of the way they lost to Pac. That might have motivated him to play it SAFE. Besides, he’s already guaranteed $1.2 million dollars, and may get another in the next fight. When Clottey retires he can say with pride that “I was too tough for Pac to knock out.”
Jarrad,
Nice objective article, but I have to disagree. FLOYD HAS MORE TO PROVE IN THE BOXING WORLD than PACMAN does. To put this into perspective, Floyd should have been “wrecking havoc” in the 160-up division, because that’s the kind of thing that Pacman did in boxing, moving from weight classes after another. And while Pac is busy “clearing” the field,” Floyd is contented cherry-picking his opponents and leaving all the works to that little Asian guy. And now that the farm is ready to harvest, Floyd re-appears to assert his claim.
I don’t think Pacman needs to beat Floyd more than Floyd needs to beat Pacman to get to that “top echelon of all time greats.” He already BELONGS to that. 30 more years or so and boxing historians won’t talk about whether Pacman belongs to the field; rather they would talk about whether Pacman IS the BEST in the field.
One more thing, the fight with Clottey proved that defense ALONE won’t win you fight.
You know, it seems that no matter what Pacquiao does, it’s never enough. Why are his counterparts not held to the same level of scrutiny? I don’t see anyone saying in order for Mayweather to prove he is an ATG he needs to fight Pac. No, Floyd is a great defensive fighter and would give Pac headaches. Whatever? The media has painted a target on Pac and give a forum for Mayweather to launch his unsubstantiated accusations. I can’t help but feel that there is an existing entrenched established culture within the boxing world that cannot accept the idea that a little-known Asian fighter has taken the boxing world by storm; and that he goes against the grain of all accepted preconceived notions of what boxing champions should be, or dare I say, look. Is it more palatable that an African-American be the ATG for this generation, or a latino, since that’s the predominant ethnic groups that line the HOF??? Is it? Pac has done nothing but bring excite, class, and entertainment to a sport on the verge of collapse by the challenges of MMA and the lack of a marketable face with impending retirement of DeLaHoy….and Mayweather has pretty much Tiger Woods his way out of his endorsements with his antics. I hope Manny knocks Mayweather out, and leaves boxing in its dust lamenting for a champion of this magnitude again.
If manny pacquiao vs clotty fight was a fix, then, so was the dela hoya fight. Oscar just stood there with pacquiao and didn’t let his hands go, he just chose not to fight. Was that also a fix? One more thing, pacquiao looked more bruised than clotty.
This was bad fight from the perspective of those who paid to watch it. It isn’t a fight if one of them won’t engage. Still it was curious how Pacquiao’s face look the worst for wear even if he was doing most of the throwing. Lenny de Jesus was right when he said that Clottey could have knocked him out if he tried. Now, in doing that he might get hit and knocked out himself. But with the few punches he threw he made a visible impact on Pac’s face. Imagine if he had thrown much more.
I think Pacquiao’s hands were mostly down because he was inviting Clottey to throw. This way Pac could then counter. If this was with Floyd or Shane, Pacquiao would probably behave differently. But since he’s a guy who likes to throw a lot, he’d still be exposed often and get hit. Still, that would mean plenty of exchanges, and therefore would be a much more exciting fight to see than what happened in Texas last Saturday.
Ali was beaten by frazier and norton when he was in his prime, dont you consider him one of the all time greats, win or lose to floyd pacquiao still is up there in the top echelon of boxing greats.
really, how many times you were able to watch the fight and do some slo mo in it? i did it 4 times. if you really want to break down what happen to that fight, you should do it. if you watch the fight carefully and slowly, you will see between rounds 1-4 that pacquiao is timing clotteys left jab with his right hook and at least put some hurt to clottey and you can notice his face and body reaction afterwards. My opinion is that clottey became hesitant to throw his jab which is usually the start of his combination..
And regarding pacquaios defense, didnt you notice that pacquiao is intentionally letting clottey to punch him, he is just standing there and waiting for clottey to punch, same thing he did against cotto since cotto would not open up. if you count all the punches that clottey landed to pacquiao when pacquaio is just standing in front of him, you will know where did get those mouse under his eye. just my thoughts and observation
This fight was FIXED JC was afraid to throw punches because if he hurt manny that would be a problem for his boss bob arum this fight was was a sham trying to win wasn’t in the script this was a chance to showcase manny to promote the next fight against mayweather use your brains people this fight was called the event for a reason because it was never meant to be a fight. joshua had the skills’ the strength ,the size and the acuracy to hit and hurt manny he also had a fighter in front of him who couldnt hurt him or get past his defense’s he also said after the fight that manny does not punch as Margarito or Cotto so why not try to win? this fight was FIXED they both had the same promoter,one is a star on the verge of the most biggest fight in boxing history 100million dollar fight and the other a nobody to the general public , joshua did what he was supposed to do lose he fought like a man with his hands tied behind his back if you think this fight was on the up n up you are a moron or stupid like Bob Arum has said in the past he thinks your stupid and since your buying that this fight was real he is right ,, one more thing people boxing writers get free tickets and vip access to the fight and the fighters they would never piss off a promoter and say the truth because the next time they would shut out for covering the next big fight
fear is a powerful tool, its also a very very hard enemy to face.
floyd lives in fear specially inside the ring. his fears keep him from being defensive and counterpunching. but if his defense falls apart will we see him deteriorate like dela hoya fight against manny?
rolling shoulder maybe very good but to who’s opponent, cotto, clottey, mosley, williams, margarito or manny? its never been tested on tough opponents, so i myself wants to see floyd fight not only against manny but most of boxers waiting inline. if you think he claims he has the best defense and counter punching, then lets test him. i dont want to base his skills on previous fights knowing most of them are cherry picked for good show of skills.
if floyd only manage a split decision with dela hoya, how much more manny destroying dela hoya to submission.
if floyd took 10 rounds to knock hatton down, manny knock hatton twice in 1st round then put him to sleep in round 2.
and if manny faced and destroyed cotto, floyd yet still needs to face cotto and the rest of the welterweights he needs to fight in order to be called the best. lets see if his skills will do good against all of them.
Mayweather talks with his mouth Pacquiao talks with his fists…
Manny ‘PacMan’ Pacquiao is on PED…Prayers Every Day!!!
i have to call it like i see it and i don’t care what pac fan gets mad. what i saw on sat was a disgrace and a complete joke to the sport of boxing. from jim lampley”s bias and classless broadcasting of the fight to bob arum charging the public to watch a 50 doller sparring match.i have been watching boxing for over 25yrs and if i ever saw a fixed fight it was pac vs clotty. if you watch that fight closely, u will see that clotty had several times in that fight to hit pac and he wouldn’t. u look at pac’s face and u look at clotty’s face after the fight and u tell me whos punches did more damage.clotty threw less then 200 punches in the entire fight and he bussed up pac’s face and pac threw like 1200 punches and clotty didn’t have a mark on his face.just think what would would have happened if clotty had threw 600 punches. whenever clotty did throw punches he would daze pac. and slightly buckle pac. if clotty would have threw more punches and used his size to his advantage he could have beat pac and maybe had stopped him (yeah i said stopped him) but instead he or should i say bob arum decided to just let clotty pose as a sparring partner and a punching bag for pac. its a shame that people paid thier hard earn money to see that hoax of a fight.arum is a crook. and clotty sure didn’t seem that upset about losing that fight.clotty had several chances to hit pac but he chose not to cause he was paid under the table not to fight pac back.and u can save that crap about pacs speed and that clotty was overwhelmed by pac’s speed cause clotty wasn’t. i saw a lot of things in the fight that floyd, shane , or p will could expliot if they were to ever fight pac.pac looked very beatable in that fight.think about it real boxing fans!.. it was no way bob arum wasn’t going to let a 200 million doller pac vs floyd fight slip through his hands. this is the new era of boxing. its not about the best fighting the best, its about what fight could make the best money.
Pacquiao is certainly a great fighter and him fighting Mayweather or Mosley is not dispositive in determining whether he is an all-time great. However, in looking at his body of work, you must consider this in determing where he stands; Barrera was on his way out, Morales was not a prime Morales; Hatton is not an all-time great and in his two biggest fights he was knocked out in both. Clottey is a B+ fighter and no one who follows boxing and understands this sport believes that Pacquiao beat any less than a shot and weight drained De La Hoya. While Pac Man has improved as a fighter, in two out of three of his losses, he was knocked out by single body shots. He didn’t even get close to making the count in either of those fights. Mayweather is not going to win anyone’s personality contest but in his biggest fights he has been nothing less than spectacular. He blew out an all-time great in Genaro Hernandez, he beat De La Hoya easily despite the dubious scorecard of one judge; he knocked out Hatton, knocked out Diego Corrales and in his fight with Marquez, he won virtually every second of the fight while Manny arguably lost every fight with Marquez. If the fight is made, Mayweather is going to be a much more difficult prospect than Clottey. Mayweather is a true Welterweight and despite his defense first reputation, in his biggest fights he has stepped up with a ton of aggression and blown out his opponents. Mayweather won’t get tired and he won’t get frustrated; Manny will have to be Superhuman in order to make the fight even competitive.
Dizzj: “it was no way bob arum wasn’t going to let a 200 million doller pac vs floyd fight slip through his hands. this is the new era of boxing. its not about the best fighting the best, its about what fight could make the best money.”
So for this evil plan that arum is concocting, Shane Mosley is going to take a dive to right? Or is it Arum is a gambling man and he is going to go with the odds and count on Mayweather beating Mosley?
Look, i’ll admit, I was in the minority thinking Clottey would actually step it up (and your right, when Clottey did, he was succesful.) But in hindsight, did Clottey actually behave differently, from what most fans saw (not me included) in his past fights? Kevin Johnson looked like he had some “success” when he actually got busy against Vitali K. as well. For me, it looked like a fighter afraid of getting KTFO just like Clottey did against Pac. If Clottey took a dive, then that would mean Mosley is taking one as well, and IDK, it’s hard for me to bielieve either fightees (CLottey, Mosley) will at this point in thier careers.
I’m just happy to see Todd Bridges has himself a decent job. Keep on writing bro!! LOVED you on Different Strokes AND Celebrity boxing. But what’s up with this Jarrad Woods name, Todd?
The Pac-Clottey fight was FIXED!!, Clottey got paid extra, under the table, to not throw many punches at the steroid filled-Pacquiao, and NOT hurt Pac. That’s why Clottey was hesistant throughout the fight. The whole “event” was FIXED! The 55,000 in attenance were mainly Margarito fans that were tricked by Arum, that Margarito would be on the undercard, and since the sale terms are “card subject to change” , there were no refunds, and many 25,000 Margarito fans were stuck to watch something else. The rest of the 30,000 tickets were free giveaways. Even UFC’s Dana Whyte was giving away free tickets.
WhenWeWereKings
u really think clottey was paid to lose ! if thats the case how come you still think pac is on roids? c’mon, make up your mind, pac won cause clottey took a dive or pac won because of roids. Did u ask those 55,000 in attendance & they all told u that they were tricked thinking that marga would be on the card? You sure sounds like the mayweathers, accusation w/out proof.
dencio,
Clottey was paid an extra bonus by Pacquiao’s other promoter (Golden Boy Promotions) to take a dive. As a matter of fact, the DelaHoya-Pacquiao fight was also FIXED. Oscar gave Pac a freebie, so that it opens the boxing door to Asian markets, and help globalize boxing the the Orient, since boxing is dying due to UFC/MMA surge…..When Arum first announced that Margarito would be on the undercard of Pac-Clottey, there were an immediate buying frenzie and more than 20,000 tickets were sold. After all Margarito hold the record for outselling the STAPLES CENTER in L.A. with more than 22,000 seat sold…But since Margarito was cancelled from the card, the rest of the tickets were free give-aways. Even the PPV Buys were very low, that HBO is too ashamed to releas the numbers, because they were about 68,000 PPV buys.