MANNY PACQUIAO WILL GAMBLE IT ALL TO AVOID FLOYD MAYWEATHER!

February 28th, 2012 By Pedro Fernandez

Shit On Manny Pacquiao's Shoe After November's Marquez Fight

REALITY CHECK TIME FOR MANNY PACQUIAO FANS!

San Francisco, CA- If you have ever played dice, you know that you can roll the dice time and again, but eventually you end up rolling “snake eyes,” which is when both of your dice come up “ones” and you lose! Although you might want to blame Floyd Mayweather, either because of his big mouth or you’re a Manny Pacquiao fan, truth be told, the blame for Pacquiao-Mayweather lies in the hearts (or lack there of) of Pacquiao and promoter Bob Arum.

DISLIKE FLOYD OUT OF RING, BUT HE’S THE KING INSIDE!

The dislike for Floyd, or his disapproval rating among boxing fans is high. But a lot of that has to do with Floyd being an arrogant and pompous ass that alienates both White Americans and Filipinos. That being said, even at 35, which Floyd turned this past Friday, his skill level is so superior that a fight with Manny Pacquiao would be a mismatch. Yeah, HBO’s Larry Merchant and Floyd are bitter enemies, but HBO’s resident judge Harold Lederman, a man who doesn’t have an axe to grind with either man, feels Floyd is by far the best fighter in the world.

MANNY HAS NEVER BEATEN JUAN MARQUEZ CONVINCINGLY

After all the controversy over last November’s Manny Pacquiao victory over Juan Manuel Marquez, with the entire press row believing Marquez won the fight, as well as a majority of “non-Filipino” boxing fans, one would think that seeing Manny had stepped in a pile of shit, that he would want to get that off his shoe and fight Marquez again. He hasn’t, and at every stop on the Manny Pacquiao-Tim Bradley press tour, you can smell the shit on Manny’s shoes and the bull shit on the breathe of Bob Arum. “In case you forgot,” to steal a line from a prime Roy Jones, Marquez never landed a significant punch on Mayweather, thus he didn’t win one minute out of the 36 in which they fought.

PACQUIAO & ARUM BOTH SCARED TO DEATH OF FLOYD!

Having heard the boisterous rants of Filipino fans ever since early 2010 when Pacquiao refused to adhere to “random” drug testing, as a whole they have been muted by Pacquiao’s losing effort against an aged Marquez. They know he didn’t win! The woman that came after me in an almost physical rage during a Pacquiao fight last year because I told her that not only would I bet on Mayweather over Manny, but that Pacquiao couldn’t hit Floyd in the ass if he had a ping-pong paddle in his hand. The verbiage spewing from this one-time Pacquiao loud mouth after the Marquez fight was so faint that I thought she had laryngitis.

IF FILIPINO’S WERE NOT BLINDED BY NATIONALITY

They would realize a number of things. 1) Manny Pacquiao has certainly peaked as a fighter and is on the other side of the hill going down. 2) He lost to Marquez in November, hell, even the “Filipino Flash” Nonito Donaire had him losing not only the third Marquez fight, but the second as well. The UK media, outside of myself, probably the most brash and blunt of all pundits, they thought Marquez won hands down! 3) Had Manny not refused the drug tests, Pacquiao and Floyd would have fought in March 2010. 4) Pacquiao, like a bull shitting politician does at will, has talked out both sides of his mouth. He would’ve fought Floyd in May, but Floyd was going to jail. Then Floyd got a reprieve allowing him to fight in May, and Manny showing that he has some bitch inside of him, had Arum say he wouldn’t be ready to fight until June, because at that time, they knew full well that Floyd was starting his county jail stint on June 1.


BACK TO THE DICE GAME PACQUIAO IS PLAYING!

Although I don’t think Tim Bradley is a great fighter per se, he is capable of beating Pacquiao. He has the skills, that unlike Pacquiao, are not eroding day by day. When it is all said and done, Manny Pacquiao just doesn’t have the guts, the intestinal fortitude or the confidence to fight Floyd Mayweather. If he did and wasn’t taking the Steroids, Insulin, or EPO that he’s been suspected of taking, they would have fought already and Manny would’ve been exposed as slow, methodical and inferior to Floyd Mayweather. That’s what both Bob Arum and Manny both know.

A LOT OF YOU CALLED FLOYD “KENTUCKY FRIED CHICKEN”

That is a term tons of Filipinos have used. They also call Floyd Mayweater “Gay,” which is an absurd comment coming from ignorant fools whose boxing acumen is so limited all they know is Manny Pacquiao. The only true term I can see being bantered about right now is that Manny Pacquiao is “Chicken Adobo!”

Pedro Fernandez

COMMENTS

  1. Loso is a tool, typical pactard, what does PW have to do with any of this??

    prizefighting on February 28th, 2012 at 5:09 PM
  2. But how many times has Floyd contradict himself didn’t he duck Paul Williams?

    Loso on February 28th, 2012 at 9:33 PM
  3. Change the subject because you know Manny is inferior to Floyd!

    Pedro Fernandez on February 28th, 2012 at 9:39 PM
  4. You know I was and still am a Floyd hater but I respect the man’s skills and he is by far the best in the world. As much as I would like to see him lose and he is probably the best Heel in the business, he still the best fighter right now. My only problem with Floyd is not fighting Mosely, Cotto, and Margacheato years ago when they were all younger and on top. That is why he can’t be considered any better than Leanard’s, Hearns, Duran’s, Hagler’s Etc. They fought the top guys back to back. I know my boy Socrates Palmer might not agree but Floyd will beat Pacquiao Easily. So Easy that people will be crying fixed fight at the end because they won’t believe it.

    TomBomb on February 28th, 2012 at 9:45 PM
  5. What u say maybe true regarding Manny being inferior to Floyd, but this time around, didn’t the fight break down cause of money (cash)? I thought it had to do with Mayweather offering a certain amount but no cut off the ppv…

    1200 Techs on February 28th, 2012 at 10:26 PM
  6. Floyd can say all he wants that he is the best. It’s a different thing to step up and prove it. Cut the crap Floyd and prove it.

    JP on February 28th, 2012 at 10:34 PM
  7. Bradley certainly seems like a good opponant. I thought I was in the minority of pac fighting Bradley if the mayweather fight didn’t pull thru…Seems like a lot of folks are open to it more now..Definitely does seem like Pac is losing a step, and Bradley is a young hungry fighter that always finds a way to win. Boxing needs new young stars so Im glad Bradley is getting his shot.

    1200 Techs on February 28th, 2012 at 10:49 PM
  8. I really think they are equal and would make a terrific fight. I just don’t understand why people buy into Floyds tricks. Saying how he wants to fight Cotto at 155 at his best and not a catch weight but then said earlier that he would fight Sergio Martinez (real P4P king) at 150 only.

    Loso on February 28th, 2012 at 11:14 PM
  9. Pedro I knew from the get go this is your article. What made you right this I think you ate to much chicken adobo LOL!

    WBO WBA WBC IBF on February 29th, 2012 at 3:45 AM
  10. write this I mean shoot I ate to much chicken adobo too! LOL

    WBO WBA WBC IBF on February 29th, 2012 at 3:47 AM
  11. Pedro: This has to be a joke. Floyd is not willing to split the pot 50/50.
    I agree Manny is gambling fighting a young, hungry undefeated fighter in Bradley; but that’s what we want fighters to do isn’t it?. Gamble. Fight tough fights. The only reason Manny is not fighting Floyd is the money; that’s it. Why would Manny take less money for the fight, that would be crazy. And before all the Floyd fans start regurgitating the BS about Manny will make more for this fight than he ever made; it will be Floyd’s biggest payday also. I learned a long time ago, don’t count other peoples money; if Floyd really wanted the fight they would go 50/50. Floyd is bitchin up. He talks about JMM beating PAC, hell; every time they fight it would be a close fight because styles make fights. Now on to Floyd who is now hyping up Cotto; Cotto IS SHOT! Let’s look at his last few fights after the Margarito bludgeoning: beat a bum in Michael Jennings, fought a life and death battle with Clottey and barely won, got destroyed by Pac, beat a hyped up B rated fighter in Yuri Foreman, beat a washed up bum in Mayorga, beat another washed up, past his prime fighter in Margarito. Floyd is at it again, taking on the biggest name with the least chance of beating him. How do I know this; because Sergio would have fought him at 150 and he didn’t even mention his name as a possible opponent. So is he really trying to fight the best opposition, NO, same BS as usual! I like Cotto, but after I just named these last fights, what makes you think he is a real threat to Floyd? Give Manny credit for taking on a hungry young fighter who is undefeated and has talent. By the way, I think Floyd would beat Manny, but lets be honest; Floyd has ducked more top fighters in his weight class while they were in their prime than any top fighter I know (Margarito, P-will, Cotto, Mosley). Don’t give me JMM or Hatton because they were out of their true weight class. Open your eyes brother and see what it really is. Floyd does not want the fight until he feels certain that Pac is washed up. I guaranty you if Pac looks bad against Bradley and Floyd wins, he will make the fight. If Floyd grew up in my neighborhood in Philly, he would have been labeled a punk ass b**ch; for talking trash and not fighting the real tough guys. Anyone who grew up in the hood knows that for real. To be the best you have to beat the best in their prime, and in their weight class! In the ring, not with your mouth.

    Jrock09 on February 29th, 2012 at 6:13 AM
  12. @TomBomb, you guys should do some real research before posting. Bob Arum refused to let Cotto fight Floyd, saying he wasn’t ready and needed two more years. He only “pressed” for a fight between Cotto and Floyd and Margo and Floyd one Floyd had left Top Rank. As we all know, at least those who are not blind, Bob Arum will do anything to prevent ANY of his guys to fight Floyd, such is his hatred for Floyd (and for anyone who left him to go elsewhere). So the Margo and Cotto “will run Floyd out of the ring” BS was just a way for Bob to try and embarrass him, knowing full well that he’d NEVER allow for those fights to happen. In case you guys have not noticed it yet, Top Rank fighters only fight Top Rank fighters or a fighter Arum can get options on.

    So before posting nonsense do some homework and understand the motives behind decisions made by the actors of these dramas.

    todaline on February 29th, 2012 at 7:42 AM
  13. 1200, the fight broke down because Manny said he was ready to take less money, signaling his desire to fight, that is, until Bob went to the Philippines and told him to STFU, and he started singing to a different tune. Floyd made it clear from day one that he wanted more money, citing and proving his greater appeal.

    todaline on February 29th, 2012 at 7:46 AM
  14. I think Mayweather has the better skill than Pacquiao. But look who he’s fighting. Floyd is fighting the same guy whom Pacquiao had brutally beaten, as if mobbed by furious gangsters, while Manny is facing Bradley, who has a clear shot on him. IMHO, Floyd Jr., doesn’t have the heart to fight Manny. He has had made hundreds of excuses and alibis, ’cause he is so scared of Pacquiao. Floyd is doing what he does best to avoid Pac.

    Konrad Gasparov on February 29th, 2012 at 8:24 AM
  15. Check out all the sports blogs, CBSsports, etc., and you will see FLOYD is the reason the fight didn’t take place. He said Manny should take 30 million and be happy. If he can beat Manny so easily, like Pedro claims, then get in the ring and DO IT!!!!!!!!!! But lets not forget, this guy ducked and ran from Williams, Cotto, Margarito, and Mosley, with Floyd finally RETIRING so he wouldn’t have to face them. He has ran from Pacman, coming up with every excuse not to fight. Even Floyd fans have stopped defending him.

    Richard on February 29th, 2012 at 9:08 AM
  16. Inaccurate. What about the shit on his shoe from the Marquez fight?

    Pedro Fernandez on February 29th, 2012 at 9:56 AM
  17. Floyd is man enough to not make Cotto weighr drained at 145. How coe none of you are addressing the shit on Manny’s shoe from the Marquez fight? Geez, JMM couldn’t touch Floyd and he beats Manny in the minds of all but a few who saw it. Manny praying for a decision, Roach telling him he needed a KO 12 to win. You mo fos are blind or ignorant………or both!

    Pedro Fernandez on February 29th, 2012 at 10:01 AM
  18. Bottom line Manny is on record recently saying 50/50 and he would have fought on on May 5th and taken any test Floyd wanted….Floyd in new york said nobody is getting 50 % percent with him ….Case closed out of his own mouth He didnt make it happen for May 5th AND HE ADMITTED IT!!!!!.I still think he beats Pacquaio by decision.It is obvious he is trying to do to Manny what Oscar did to him.The only difference is he was no where near the draw that Manny is now as opposed to what he was at that time when he fought Oscar.So dont say Im making it up, those statements came out of their mouths.Lets move on now and enjoy the upcoming fights they are both having I know I will.

    rio001 on February 29th, 2012 at 10:03 AM
  19. Wrong Konrad, who is FILIPINO. Floyd beats on Manny easier than his baby’s mama!

    Pedro Fernandez on February 29th, 2012 at 10:07 AM
  20. Read the sory dumb-dumb!

    Pedro Fernandez on February 29th, 2012 at 10:09 AM
  21. Pedro why are you stuck in 2010.We know now what Manny said is true and confirmed by Floyd nobody is getting 50 percent with him so I think we all know who didnt want to make the fight on May 5th….Manny didnt make it happen in 2010 and Floyd didnt make happen in May 2012…I will say this for a guy you make out to be a fighter on the down slope Floyd isnt making himself look good…Just Sayin!

    rio001 on February 29th, 2012 at 10:10 AM
  22. No Rio, he said he would take less. Do all or most Filipinos have lapses in memory?

    Pedro Fernandez on February 29th, 2012 at 10:11 AM
  23. Todaline: Manny did say that he was willing go take less money, but at that point they were negotiating..I thought it was stupid for him to say he’s willing to take less money cause that fight is 50/ 50…the blame goes to both guys..manny for being a puppet and mayweather for being greedy…I think its safe to say these guys are not afraid to fight each other but are definitely reluctant to make the fight happen..why should they when they still make millions fighting lesser foes?

    1200 Techs on February 29th, 2012 at 10:29 AM
  24. Manny definitely has caca on his shoe from JMM..The problem is, that movie is played out! JMM hands down is the most dserving but for me, I wanna see him fight bradley…There’s no way JMM wins a close decision against Pac..He’d have to flat out knock him out and that ain’t happening…Its boxing, its brutal, and at times, full of bullspit!

    1200 Techs on February 29th, 2012 at 10:34 AM
  25. Isn’t this the same article written 20 times over just to piss off all the Pacquiao fans? Nobody in Pacquiao’s position would take less than 50%. I am sure that if Pedro were Pacquiao’s manager he would have told Pacquiao not to accept less than 50%.

    Emilio on February 29th, 2012 at 10:42 AM
  26. pic looks like someone stepped on a pile of floyd!

    bigdig on February 29th, 2012 at 10:44 AM
  27. _otto at this point is a spent warrior..He had a tough time against A glass eyed deplasterized Margarito..This version of Cotto is lesser than the one that got bombed out by pac.Martinez at 154 was the most deserving but we all know mayweather hasn’t picked the best comp. out there like his counterpart Pac has been doing lately…Its a shame these guys lost the fie that burned when they were taking scalps at the lighterweights…

    1200 Techs on February 29th, 2012 at 10:45 AM
  28. Pedro: Even if he did say he would take less but changed his tune and agreed to everything else and mayweather said no on 50/50, that’s flat out GREED and shows reluctance on Floyd’s part as well!

    1200 Techs on February 29th, 2012 at 10:51 AM
  29. Yeah he did say that he would take less.. then maybe he woke up or somebody woke him up and said dont be stupid you bring as much to the table as Floyd..lol.One thing I think it shows is his willingness to fight.Right now you got one guy(manny) saying 50/50 and we fight and the the other(floyd) is saying you take what I feel like giving and be happy about it….personally I think your boy is turning down easy money….btw Im Puerto Rican.

    Rio on February 29th, 2012 at 12:06 PM
  30. u didn’t read the story. Another idiotic comment.

    Pedro Fernandez on February 29th, 2012 at 12:10 PM
  31. His word from what you say is not worth spit!

    Pedro Fernandez on February 29th, 2012 at 12:11 PM
  32. Rio, one thing it shows is Pac’s WILLINGNESS to say he’s ready to fight. Notice that EVERY TIME he’s said so, he came back saying the exact opposite. So don’t confuse willingness to say things with willingness to fight.

    todaline on February 29th, 2012 at 12:30 PM
  33. Rio, 1200 et al, was Alex Ariza (and Freddie Roach) lying when he went public, saying that in fact it’s always been Arum the impediment to the fight? Or was Alex Ariza lying?

    todaline on February 29th, 2012 at 12:53 PM
  34. todaline whats research when you have knowledge of following the sport for years. I know all about Arum and Floyd and yes you are right but When cotto beat Judah Cotto was talking about fighting and wanting to fight Floyd. Matter of fact when Floyd did that Wrestlemania stunt Cotto said he wanted to fight floyd and made a comment about Floyd not wanting to fight. Honestly I can remember the details of what was said and maybe I have to look it up but Cotto called out Floyd and there was no Urgency for Floyd to come fight Cotto but when Hatton called Floyd out, Floyd had no problem coming back to fight Hatton. I don’t know what was the problem with my post earlier but I was trying to make a comparison of Floyd fighting the top guys in comparison to the old greats I mentioned before. So before you tell someone to do some research GO EAT A FUCKING DICK.

    TomBomb on February 29th, 2012 at 2:34 PM
  35. Never got it!

    Pedro Fernandez on February 29th, 2012 at 3:04 PM
  36. Pedro: This has to be a joke. Floyd is not willing to split the pot 50/50. See for yourself on http://www.espn.com

    http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/7626619/floyd-mayweather-jr-says-manny-pacquiao-not-one-sharpest-not-getting-50-50-split

    I agree Manny is gambling fighting a young, hungry undefeated fighter in Bradley; but that’s what we want fighters to do isn’t it?. Gamble. Fight tough fights. The only reason Manny is not fighting Floyd is the money; that’s it. Why would Manny take less money for the fight, that would be crazy. And before all the Floyd fans start regurgitating the BS about Manny will make more for this fight than he ever made; it will be Floyd’s biggest payday also. I learned a long time ago, don’t count other peoples money; if Floyd really wanted the fight they would go 50/50. Floyd is bitchin up. He talks about JMM beating PAC, hell; every time they fight it would be a close fight because styles make fights. Now on to Floyd who is now hyping up Cotto; Cotto IS SHOT! Let’s look at his last few fights after the Margarito bludgeoning: beat a bum in Michael Jennings, fought a life and death battle with Clottey and barely won, got destroyed by Pac, beat a hyped up B rated fighter in Yuri Foreman, beat a washed up bum in Mayorga, beat another washed up, past his prime fighter in Margarito. Floyd is at it again, taking on the biggest name with the least chance of beating him. How do I know this; because Sergio would have fought him at 150 and he didn’t even mention his name as a possible opponent. So is he really trying to fight the best opposition, NO, same BS as usual! I like Cotto, but after I just named these last fights, what makes you think he is a real threat to Floyd? Give Manny credit for taking on a hungry young fighter who is undefeated and has talent. By the way, I think Floyd would beat Manny, but lets be honest; Floyd has ducked more top fighters in his weight class while they were in their prime than any top fighter I know (Margarito, P-will, Cotto, Mosley). Don’t give me JMM or Hatton because they were out of their true weight class. Open your eyes brother and see what it really is. Floyd does not want the fight until he feels certain that Pac is washed up. I guaranty you if Pac looks bad against Bradley and Floyd wins, he will make the fight. If Floyd grew up in my neighborhood in Philly, he would have been labeled a punk ass b**ch; for talking trash and not fighting the real tough guys. Anyone who grew up in the hood knows that for real. To be the best you have to beat the best in their prime, and in their weight class! In the ring, not with your mouth.

    Jrock09 on February 29th, 2012 at 3:39 PM
  37. “The only true term I can see being bantered about right now is that Manny Pacquiao is “Chicken Adobo!”

    Ouch, you really hate Asians don’t u PF

    StickItIn on February 29th, 2012 at 4:00 PM
  38. pedro please u are wasting ur time trying to talk to the pactard! they just wont except the truth,…thats pac has never ever want to fight floyd in the 1st place, freddy roach wants the fight more then pac does. pac knows he cant beat floyd, arum knows it too, thats why he will do everything in his power not to make that happen. pac is no better then floyd, he has be linked to several affairs, gambling,kids by other chicks then jinkee, manny is not a good guy but he keeps getting a pass by the press.(wonder why?)bottom line pac a real coward.

    dizzj on February 29th, 2012 at 4:13 PM
  39. What an ignorant **** you are StickItIn. You must be sticking in your mouth. My Grandpa was worn in the Philippines. My mother is white (Norweigan) I am a bit of everything and the Chicken Adobo line is not hate filled………..it’s truthful.

    Pedro Fernandez on February 29th, 2012 at 4:14 PM
  40. Jock, PAC is younger than Floyd. Y O U N G E R!!! So it’s not like a young guy waiting on an older warrior. Repeat after me: Floyd is older than Manny. OLDER. As for the ducking he’s done, do some research and stopped listening to the haters (you know the type of guys who organized the Roycott) and the light will shine upon you. Most of those fighters WERE TOp Rank guys. Guys Arum would never let near Floyd, just like he’s not letting Pacnear Floyd. P-Will? What a big draw. Ask Martinez how much he’s making after almost taking his head off. Mosley? At the time HE was not interested. Teeth and vacations.

    todaline on February 29th, 2012 at 5:00 PM
  41. @Pedro what and the Hell have these guys been reading or watching other than PacMan Propaganda Videos and Litterture…..OMG….this is CRAZY !!!

    @TomBomb you say that Money May ducked Mosely and Cotto?? WTF are you getting this nonsense Floyd Called Mosely out YEARS AGO LOOOOOOOONG before they ever fought Mosley DUCKED FLOYD until he needed a payday and had nothing to lose and as it was pointed out Earlier Bob Arum would not let Cotto fight Floyd and Margarito didnt want to fight him either….wow you guys SERIOUSLY need to put the crack pipe down!!! with all the FREE INFORMATION you have at your fingertips with youtube and google I would seriously suggest some of you research things before you open your ignorant ass mouths….seriously its pitiful and utterly disgusting listening to some of this BULLSHIT and the fact that you BELIEVE the shit that you spew is even worse…..I give Pedro all the love and RESPECT in the WORLD for dealing with you IDIOTS everyday…cause most of you dont know sgit….before I go PLEASE click the link it would be wise for you to do so before typing anymore bullshit about Floyd DUcking ANYBODY cause the man NEVER ducked anybody NEVER !!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEHF5HX6Jb0

    You guys are seriously perverse in your way of thinking……smmfh

    Salvant on February 29th, 2012 at 5:09 PM
  42. Floyd had everybody on his side not to long ago but I must admit offering Pac 40 million with no PPV’s is ludicrous! Floyd might make 100 million maybe even more so while I do agree he is a bigger draw (not by much) he is essentially asking for around a 65/35 split. I don’t care what Manny is being conned out of by Arum no way Floyd makes that much money without Pac. I hate both these guys but Mayweather irks me more than Pac he is just a horrible human being. Great fighter but look at Floyds resume and the fighters he fought when he fought them I gotta say Pac’s resume is a lot stronger.

    TT on February 29th, 2012 at 6:00 PM
  43. bottom line,
    anyone who pays to watch Floyd fight Cotto is a sucker, and you are putting money into the hands of a lying, manipulating, foul mouthed person. No matter what his boxing skill , and those are in dispute, Mayweather does not get any of my money.
    And yes Bob Arum is as filthy as Floyd

    Jim on February 29th, 2012 at 6:40 PM
  44. Guys, if you have any opinion contradicting Pedro’s, keep it by yourself. Either you are stupid or idiot in his eyes if you don’t agree with him. Pedro cannot be wrong. Right Pedro?

    bmoy on February 29th, 2012 at 7:48 PM
  45. Good stuff Pedro. You’ve also got the best comments section in town!

    Cheesey1 on February 29th, 2012 at 9:26 PM
  46. Osc Salazar,

    Please repost in lower case letter meaning NOT ALL IN CAPS! Thanks, Pedro

    Pedro Fernandez on February 29th, 2012 at 11:17 PM
  47. Hey Ken……Trash? What a piece of shit you are. Able to talk tough through the keyboard of a rented computer, you are spammed here and are no longer welcome!

    Pedro Fernandez on February 29th, 2012 at 11:23 PM
  48. sorry about the caps this computer im on suck…I will post from different pc next time.Thanks for the show and info…I don’t always agree with you…but hey I love my boxing too.

    Osc on February 29th, 2012 at 11:26 PM
  49. Bmoy, nice Irish name. No, another buffoon with a single digit IQ. I fell so sorry for you!

    Pedro Fernandez on February 29th, 2012 at 11:28 PM
  50. Pac is older as a fighter. Has had tough fights against bigger men. Marquez beat him, why can’t you admit it? Because you are like a Jim Jones subject, hypnotized by Pacmanmania!

    Pedro Fernandez on February 29th, 2012 at 11:32 PM
  51. I agree I think Marquez has beat Pac the last two fights…and won more rds the first fight…but floyd made him move up two wieght classes and then came in overweight!C’mon how long Floyd been doing this,you dont think that was a calculated move…hell yea Ill pay the measley what was it 200,000 FINE,CHUMP CHANGE FOR fLYD…BUT HE HAD SO MUCH RESPECT FOR mARQUEZ HE SAID i ‘LL DO IT…LOOK WHAT HE DID TO pAC.wHY ELSE WOULD HE DO THAT…HE’S DISCIPLINED A GYM RAT…HE MISSED THE WIEGHT.eXPLAIN TRHAT TO ME

    Osc on February 29th, 2012 at 11:39 PM
  52. @Salvant

    Didnt Margarito once offered floyd his biggest fight purse just to fight him??

    dondon on March 1st, 2012 at 1:52 AM
  53. Arum offered him $4 mill when he was still at 140.

    Pedro Fernandez on March 1st, 2012 at 3:56 AM
  54. Problem with most people posting on the Floyd vs PAC topic is that they let their hatred for Floyd use the keyboard. They’ll spend nights & days digging anything even remotely negative about Floyd and when you tell them, good for you, now do the same about Pac, they’ll tell you, send me links. Damn it, if you had the time to digg about one why not for the other? There are tons of material showing both talking out of both sides of their filthy mouth.

    Our Pinoy brothers like to call Floyd the Xilocain man, but they forget that PAC uses ILLEGAL hand wraps, stacking gauze and pads, ropes between the fingers, while loudly complaining about supposed irregularities by others, in an effort to prevent others from seeing what’s going on. I know, they’re gonna come after me. Just use that thing called “the google”, you know the one you used to dig “dirt” on Floyd. It’s there for all to see.

    todaline on March 1st, 2012 at 6:04 AM
  55. @ Todaline: I know Pac is younger than Floyd, that wasn’t my point. Pac has more fights and more wear and tear based on the way he fights (he’s an action fighter unlike pop shot Floyd). As for Sergio and Pwill as draws; Floyd fighting almost anybody is a draw. Who was Victor Ortiz (who was on BAD fighting another B level fighter in Berto – who was exposed when Collazo balled him up), who was Baldomir (who beat an over hyped Zab Judah)? But he made those fights didn’t he? And don’t give me the BS about Baldomir being the welter champ, because Floyd always says it’s not about belts; Baldomir was an easy mark. In addition to that, Floyd is going to make more money because he is his own promoter and can dictate to anyone else but Pac, what he is going to pay them. Real fight fans would be more interested in watching Floyd test himself at 150 or 154 against a true test in Sergio Martinez, and Floyd would still make his money. All I’m saying is if he claims he is the best, call out he best; and since he and Pac can’t seem to get it done, then call out Sergio. Sergio has been calling him out and Floyd hasn’t said shit. He picks and chooses the biggest names with the least amount of risk. And don’t give me that BS about “well he’s fighting Cotto at Cotto’s natural weight 154″. It doesn’t matter if Cotto was 160 or 168 HE IS SHOT and Floyd knows it. Floyd has all the physical advantages on Cotto except weight (even though his frame could probably carry 154 easily); like height, reach, and speed. Cotto hasn’t beaten an A fighter in years. I was at the Garden when he beat Mosley and he barely did that when he was in his prime. Sergio is out there waiting, make it happen after Sergio’s next fight.

    Jrock09 on March 1st, 2012 at 6:17 AM
  56. PF, it’s not about one line (chicken adobo), it’s a history of your site I’ve been reading for years now.

    Racism is like porn, you know it when you see it and this “little bit of everything” simply doesn’t cut it. It’s akin to “I have nothing against Asians, my girlfriend’s Asian”

    StickItIn on March 1st, 2012 at 6:20 AM
  57. Dondon,

    Margarito offered Mayweather 8 million for a fight at 147. Mayweather declined, and fought Carlos Baldomir, at 147. Obviously, when you run like a coward, you take the easier fight. He ducked Margarito the rest of the way, finally retiring when Williams, Cotto, Mosley, and Williams were clowning him for being gutless.

    Richard on March 1st, 2012 at 8:59 AM
  58. Manny faced JMM 3 times, 2 or 3 in JMM natural weight class. All 3 fights were closed fights, entertaining, it could have gone either way, but we can not say it was a clear robbery no matter which way the fight went.

    JMM did not do well against Floyd, both of them had issue with weight, JMM too light and Floyd coming over the agreed limit, I think on purpose. My issue with Floyd is he calls himself the best, but he has not faced the best in his prime, he is an excellent business man with good boxing skill, but he will not go down as the best.

    In Manny I see another Gatti, he might not be the best but his fight makes you stay on the edge of your chair….Floyd is boring, all the action is outside the ring…

    Robertito on March 1st, 2012 at 10:13 AM
  59. Saying Paquiao is an alleged steroid user is a bit like saying the President is an alleged communist spy: Who made the allegations, and with what evidence? A bunch of whacko crackpots?

    Floyd Mayweather? Does he really strike you as a credible source? Based on what, his history of clear and rational thought? The fevered delusions of his paranoid mind? There is not a drop of evidence to suggest that Paquiao ever doped.

    I know, you’ll say his unprecedented rise through the weight classes. But just because you are gobsmacked by someone’s success doesn’t make them a cheater.

    There are always two sides to every story… which is suppoed to be the golden rule of journalism.

    This article would be much stronger if you had actually interviewed Mike Kroncz and Leonard Ellerby or whoever. Someone from each side. Get both perspectives.

    Jon on March 1st, 2012 at 11:07 AM
  60. Arum offered him $4 million.

    Pedro Fernandez on March 1st, 2012 at 11:08 AM
  61. Not true Konrad, mainly you.

    Pedro Fernandez on March 1st, 2012 at 11:15 AM
  62. It was 8 mill to fight Margarito and he didn want it!!!!! typical Move from a a dude like Money he’s making big money on easy fights …I’m not saying Cotto is a walk in the park but we all know the outcome if Floyd come at his best . When is money going to stop running his mouth and make meaningful fights like Sergio Martinez ???? He’s willing to go to 154 to meet Floyd.. why not make that fight Instead of Cotto

    Cheroc on March 1st, 2012 at 11:15 AM
  63. MARGARITO never offered Floyd a dime. Arum offered him $4 million.

    Pedro Fernandez on March 1st, 2012 at 11:18 AM
  64. 3RD FIGHT WAS..You forget, Roach told him he needed KO before round 12 to win.

    Pedro Fernandez on March 1st, 2012 at 11:26 AM
  65. I can’t stand Floyd because he is such an a-hole, but he is a truly great fighter. I don’t see Cotto or Pacquiao beating him. Sergio Martinez has offered to fight him at 150. Do you think he could beat Floyd at that weight? I’d much rather see the fight at 154 so Martinez wouldn’t have to starve himself down to an unnaturally low level. Martinez is not as good of a fighter as Floyd, but I would give him a good chance of winning at 154 because of his advantages in size and strength.

    Carlos on March 1st, 2012 at 11:46 AM
  66. @TombFlop, this is what you said (didn’t catch it): “todaline whats research when you have knowledge of following the sport for years.”

    This clearly shows how absurdly ignorant you are. Research is used whenever one needs to seriously enter a debate. How can you even say something as absurd? Are you glued to your TV 24/7? Do you watch every vlog, channel, read EVERY blog, watch site, newspaper, book known to men about boxing? Since the answer is a resounding NO, can call this a lapse in judgement?

    “When cotto beat Judah Cotto was talking about fighting and wanting to fight Floyd. Matter of fact when Floyd did that Wrestlemania stunt Cotto said he wanted to fight floyd and made a comment about Floyd not wanting to fight.”

    So, because Cotto called out Floyd he should dump all other options and fight Cotto? Do you not understand that Bob Arum would never have allowed Cooto near Floyd? What about when the bout was VERY feasible? That’s when Floyd was still with Arum. Floyd called Cotto out numerous time.

    “Honestly I can remember the details of what was said and maybe I have to look it up”:

    I am extremely disappointed in you. You cannot come here and say “whats research when you have knowledge of following the sport for years”, and two sentences later say that you don’t know the details of who said what. At least show some CONSTANCY.

    “but Cotto called out Floyd and there was no Urgency for Floyd to come fight Cotto”

    Just like there was no urgency on Cotto’s part when Floyd called him out numerous times.

    “but when Hatton called Floyd out, Floyd had no problem coming back to fight Hatton.”

    Simple, there was more money to be made.

    “I don’t know what was the problem with my post earlier but I was trying to make a comparison of Floyd fighting the top guys in comparison to the old greats I mentioned before.”

    We, the fans, have this fantasy about the old timers being much better than the current crop of boxers, because they fought more often and better or perceived to be better opponents. Here’s the truth about that: those guys HAD to fight VERY often because they made little money compared to today. Ali and Frazier, COMBINED, relatively recent Champs, didn’t make in their whole career, in the ring, what Floyd made in his last two fights (maybe even just one). Knowing that, you can understand that the guy does NOT need to fight often.

    Another thing: just because we’d like a guy to fight someone does not mean that it is his best business option.

    “So before you tell someone to do some research GO EAT A FUCKING DICK.” Oh so, no more research,er, I mean having to look it up. Be nice, will you? I only eat the thing where the FUCKING DICK so nicely fits.

    todaline on March 1st, 2012 at 12:32 PM
  67. Jon, there was never a drop of evidence to suggest, other than sudden muscle gain, cranium enlargement, speed and power gain, increased stamina, etc, that Mosley, Marion Jones, Ben Johnson etc, ever doped.

    But did they?

    todaline on March 1st, 2012 at 12:35 PM
  68. Osc, that was three years ago, Czn’t you sop grasping foe straws. YOU sound silly!

    Pedro Fernandez on March 1st, 2012 at 1:47 PM
  69. I love the Floyd/Pac threads. So much enthusiasm from both sides. At the end of the day we can sit here and say JMM gave Pac all he could handle and Floyd beat down Marquez so Floyd would easily beat Pac and so on and so on but they are two completely different styles. Marquez throws some wicked combos and has fought him 3 times so I think JMM has Pacs timing down. while Floyd is more of a pot shotter. The only combo I seen Floyd throw the whole fight against Ortiz was when he wasn’t looking. I still think Mayweather wins but lets be real Floyd is a lot bigger than Pac and that to me is the biggest problem for Pac. I commend him for fighting at 147 but he isn’t a welterweight he is a Jr. welterweight at most.

    TT on March 1st, 2012 at 2:31 PM
  70. Osc, he came in 2 pounds over the agreed upon 144 pounds, but within the 147 pounds WW limit. And he did NOT make him jump weight classes. Juan called Floyd out and he agreed to a fight. Again, Floyd was on weight, that is the less than the Welter weight limit, which is the weight they were fighting at. That being said, Floyd came in at 146, and per the contract, paid 300K/pound penalty. Do you know the difference between draining a fighter who can no longer fight at the welterweight and have a lightweight/junior welter come up in weight? No? Well Marquez showed us. Against Floyd he lost ALL rounds, against Pac, he got ROBBED. At the SAME weight.

    You make it sound as if Floyd came in at 200 pounds. It was 146 and by the way Pedro it was 2 and a half years ago. Osc, please get out of that Fischer guy bandwagon. How can you say that Roy has just started fighting tough guys? He lost because he was STUPID. You cannot have a 6% body fat and lose over 25 pounds without consequences. Do you guys even understand how the human body works?

    And that s*it about so and so ALMOST KOing so. Almost is a FANTASY word, do you understand? FANTASY. In the minds of Floyd haters, Mosley ALMOST KO’d Floyd. He almost KO’d Floyd but 30 seconds later Floys was backing him up. Don’t you think that if he was ALMOST knocked out Mosley would be able to do something? The thing is, it’s difficult to touch him that whenever someone touches him, he was ALMOST out. But almost never won anything.

    todaline on March 1st, 2012 at 2:38 PM
  71. @Pedro: Who wins between Mayweather and Sergio at 154? and why?

    Jrock09 on March 1st, 2012 at 2:43 PM
  72. Todaline,

    I have no idea if Pacquiao has used PED or not. He may have. But to refer to him as an “alleged PED user” is ridiculous because it has been alleged by no one with any proof whatsoever or anyone who has any credibility.

    That is unlike, for instance, Lance Armstrong, when dozens of people had come forward and said they saw him juice over the years.

    All of the people you mentioned, they all failed drug tests or were ratted out by Victor Conte.

    You are simply accusing Pacquiao based on your unknowledgable opinion and because his achievements have left you baffled.

    It is like if, knowing nothing about a poster except his posts, I said ‘I bet he is a high school dropout’ and then everyone started referring to him as an ‘alleged high school dropout.’

    Jon on March 1st, 2012 at 2:44 PM
  73. Jon, showing yout mental limitations regarding the word “alleged.” Please look it up in the dictionary. I feel, as do many others that it is impossible to get bigger and not gain fat. Ask Duran, Leonard, Pac is not Tommy Hearns where he has a 6’2 body to build on. Manny never went to high school, he got a GED, which Chris Rock labels, “Good Enough For A Diploma.” Essentially the Philippine people elected somebody that would have problems writing a “ransom note,” let alone legislation on his own!

    Pedro Fernandez on March 1st, 2012 at 4:34 PM
  74. Too big for Floyd.

    Pedro Fernandez on March 1st, 2012 at 4:35 PM
  75. Osc, looks like I’m going to have bounce your ignorant ass out of here. One more stupid post and you can go back to Pacland.

    Pedro Fernandez on March 1st, 2012 at 4:37 PM
  76. Todaline, if Jon was rational he would STFU, but he’ll be back with some more bull s&it. I’m ready to booth these clowns are they are wasting more of my time then they are comical. You can on;y laugh so much at the same joke!

    Pedro Fernandez on March 1st, 2012 at 4:39 PM
  77. Pedro,

    “Impossible?”

    Arturo Gatti started his career at a ripped 126 pounds and retired at a ripped 147–and weighed, what actually, in the ring, 160 perhaps–and still ripped.

    Shane Mosely has never been anything close to “fat” and has fought from 135-157; that is, again, according to the scale, who knows what he actually weighed come fight time at in his last few fights.

    Floyd Mayweather himself has weighed between 130-147 and was never ‘fat.’

    You are saying that it is highly unlikely/impossible that Pacquiao put on about 30 pounds of muscle from the time he was 17 to age 34.

    I never boxed though I was an athlete, and if I was a pro boxer I would have started my career at 135 pounds at age 17 and there is absolutely no way today at 35 I could get below 168 without amputation.

    Not strange to me.

    Jon on March 1st, 2012 at 4:59 PM
  78. @todaline

    i see your a “research guy”, and damn i hate research! but why didnt u come back to me when i post the research you made me do regarding the numbers/pcnt of criminals in the phils??? Hope u still remember that???

    dondon on March 1st, 2012 at 6:39 PM
  79. TT, Floyd is NOT a lot bigger than Manny. They both walk around the same weight, 150-155. Roach has been selling you guys tha BS for years. Let me show you how duplicitous my friend Roach from my home State, Massachusetts is. This is Roach complaining about the illegality of hand wrapping while illegally hand wrapping Manny’s hands: http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=/watch?v=-ZJn8qi506w&v=-ZJn8qi506w&gl=US

    Roach likes to run around saying that Pac is a small guy whenever that benefits them. On other occasions when he needs to dispell doping accusations, he says that in fact Pac is a BIG guy who was starving himself to make weight, and that is why he’s suddenly more powerful. Which is which? Is he a small guy who’s asking the big guys to drain themselves in fairness to him, or is he a big guy who’s knocking guys out because in fact he’s always been big?

    “The Google” will show the veracity of what I just wrote, in case you have doubts.

    todaline on March 1st, 2012 at 6:56 PM
  80. @Pedro

    Why dont you just kick everybody who knows nothing about boxing off of your site…..lol seriously this is getting ugly and making my brain hurt !!

    Salvant on March 1st, 2012 at 6:59 PM
  81. I’m tired of being called four letter words, the N word, a spic, having my writers treated in the same manner. I took it for years. Guess what Salvant, no more!

    Pedro Fernandez on March 1st, 2012 at 8:04 PM
  82. Try 40 lbs, what you can’t count either? 107 to 147! As for you being a fat ass, I’m sorry. I kept 139 lbs, won seven titles in 10 years as a jr. welter. Discipline! Gatti cheated on the scale, ask Johnny Bos or Joey Gamache.

    Pedro Fernandez on March 1st, 2012 at 9:02 PM
  83. Don don, about 60-65% of Manilla is a slum. People from all over coming and building a “house” overnight. Unfortunately about 80% of those, by necessity, commit crimes daily. Add to that the regular criminals and you have the totals I wrote. Or you can do your own REAL research to confirm this.

    todaline on March 1st, 2012 at 10:11 PM
  84. Jon, I’m 55, don’t exercise at all (stopped long ago), 152-155 since 1995. Prior to that I was about 145-150 since I became an adult. Eat well, step away from soda, alcohol, liquid desert (Dunkin Donuts, Starbucks, etc, half/half) anything high fructose corn syrup, and you’ll be 20 pounds lighter without cutting your legs. Oh, that good steak? No more than once a week. Very, very bad for you.

    todaline on March 1st, 2012 at 10:39 PM
  85. Todaline: Excuse me for butting in bud..I wanted to throw this out there..who gives a crap about breaking laws, when survival is at hand! The social welfare, is pretty non exisistent.Its terrible though some of the crimes that are committed over there in the P.I., not unlike many third world countries. The worst you can imagine. I don’t doubt those numbers you put forth but damn, what kind of laws are being counted? You count traffic violations and id venture to say the way those folks drive over there, every driver is a criminal!..

    1200 Techs on March 1st, 2012 at 11:00 PM
  86. 1200, I was merely citing a study by a Philippine Lady, an authority in the field. As I said, necessity leads lots of people to do things they wouldn’t normally do if their corrupt governments provided them with better alternatives. So Iam in no way trying to say that my brothers from the Pinoy Nation are all criminals, just pointing out what the politicians do to people.

    todaline on March 1st, 2012 at 11:27 PM
  87. he said that JMM is too cautious particularly on the 8th round and onwards where Pacman was aggressive and hitting Marquez at will(look at Marquez face in total mess after the fight while Pacman’s face was unmarked).Pacman took the lead on the last 4 rounds….
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Pedro,
    3RD FIGHT WAS..You forget, Roach told him he needed KO before round 12 to win.

    Peter_dbest on March 1st, 2012 at 11:49 PM
  88. Pacman ****** vlost period. Watch the instructions for round 12 and Pacmutt praying afterwards!

    Pedro Fernandez on March 2nd, 2012 at 2:17 AM
  89. Out of Mayweather’s own mouth..The reason the fight didn’t go through was he did NOT want to do a 50/50 split. he even refused the idea of 45/45 with 10 percent going to the winner…Doesnt sound like a guy convinced he would surely beat the pacman….

    http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweather-explains-why-he-t-give-pacquiao-50-50–50186

    1200 Techs on March 2nd, 2012 at 11:39 AM
  90. Todaline,

    Im just going with what my vision tells me. JMM and Pac look about the same size to me and when JMM fought Floyd, Floyd looked a lot bigger than Marquez. I don’t need to do research because that’s what all these guys do is contradict themeselves so why bother when I can do research on this Leryn Franco javelinist goddess at the bottom of my page?

    TT on March 2nd, 2012 at 1:42 PM
  91. TT, numbers don’t lie. Go to Boxrec.com and check the weights.

    todaline on March 2nd, 2012 at 3:23 PM
  92. By the way TT, you must be one of those guys who buy into the narrative of Floyd having been 20+ pounds heavier on that night. Everyone in the boxing business will tell you that the guy NEVER entered the ring above 152#, yet to read some of you guys, he must’ve been at the very least 165 on that particular night. I guess you also believe in the Loch Ness monster, the Chupacabra, the phantom punch of Ali on Liston’s chin and God knows what other conspiracy theories.

    todaline on March 2nd, 2012 at 4:01 PM
  93. Todaline: I have no idea what Floyd weighed that night as opposed to what JMM weighed that night but I do know that Floyd looked a lot bigger (I’ll check boxrec and you can check youtube) and the very next fight Marquez came all the way back down to 135. Floyd couldn’t even make 144 so that shows you that he was a bigger guy regardless of the fight night weight. Floyd is a solid 147 who would have to cut off his leg to make 140 and even at 135 Marquez is still a small lightweight. Chupacabra isn’t real? Thanks for letting me know I’ll sleep better tonight I was always afraid that little bastard would come to get me.

    TT on March 2nd, 2012 at 5:59 PM
  94. @todaline

    i dont need to do a “real research”, i just want u to give me the links. im just curious as to where did u get your info.You see, i live in manila for a long time, and from my day to day activities, i dont see any of the numbers that suggest what u’v posted. isnt it that sometimes, actual experience is better than what survey says? now i dont want to debate u on that. Just want u to give the site, anyway i gave u the facts & numbers u ask for? Fair?

    dondon on March 2nd, 2012 at 7:30 PM
  95. @todaline

    “Unfortunately about 80% of those, by necessity, commit crimes daily.” Is this a fact?? Again, can i request u to give me the link on this?

    dondon on March 2nd, 2012 at 7:35 PM
  96. @1200 techs

    “The social welfare, is pretty non exisistent.Its terrible though some of the crimes that are committed over there in the P.I., not unlike many third world countries. The worst you can imagine.”

    What are these “worst crime you can imagine”??

    Again, you have to at least lived in the phils to say these things. I lived in manila for a long time, and what ur saying is wayyy to exaggerated. I dont see and experience it that way. Im 45 and i’ve never been a victim of any crime,so do my family….friends.

    dondon on March 2nd, 2012 at 8:01 PM
  97. Don’t erase my post is what you said. I just did, smart ass!

    Pedro Fernandez on March 2nd, 2012 at 8:33 PM
  98. Dondon: Your lucky then to have not have to deal with you or your family members having to be child prostetutes. Or the people that are holding babies to beg for money, some of the worst using gasoline soaked rags, to stop the crying. Or how the mafia has squatter kids begging for them. Trust me when I say the U.S. has criminals as well that ‘ll twist ur stomach and decent people would have no problem with some of these animals just get thrown in general population in prison and have real justice take its course. The gen. population prisons here in the U.S. especially in California, those assholes would be dead men walking. But some of the stuff that’s out in the open in the P.I. and other thirld world countries for that matter, it wouldn’t fly out in the open here in the U.S.

    1200 Techs on March 2nd, 2012 at 9:57 PM
  99. Todaline: here’s some numbers for you regarding the crime rate for P.I. per 100K…

    http://www.nscb.gov.ph/secstat/d_safety.asp

    What percent again where you saying that the population are criminals in the p.I.? I forgot what thread that was on….

    1200 Techs on March 2nd, 2012 at 10:19 PM
  100. Dondon stop being lazy. Do the same thing I did. As for living in Manilla and not seeing what’s going on around, let me tell you something: I used to live in Paris, right in the middle of terrorist attacks and I’ve never seen one. Now, regarding the numbers, a little hint. There’s a prominent Filipino lady working for Unafei…

    todaline on March 2nd, 2012 at 11:03 PM
  101. TT, I saw the fight, and while Floyd was bigger, your dislike and the various forums where they suddenly balloned Floyd to about 170 pounds, are actually the reason you’re remembering Floyd as a Heaviweight and JMM as a Fliweight. And no, Floyd is not a solid welter who would need to cut a leg to make 140. It would probably be difficult but you seem to forget that not so long ago he was a lightweight. But I guess anything goes as long as your hatred of the guy. In your wildest dreams he probably had a gun inside the ring against Juan and thugs waiting outside just in case he’d lose. Change your habits man, no more Glen Beck.

    todaline on March 2nd, 2012 at 11:13 PM
  102. BTW TT, one topic we discussed ad nauseam here is the Cloud vs Campillo fight. And going by your logic, meaning that you don’t care what the scales say since your eyes are telling you a different story, Campillo was probably a Heavy fighting a Light Middle in Cloud. Man, Campillo looked A LOT bigger than Cloud, but was he? Have you ever gotten into how the human body is structured? Bone density, body fat, etc? You should!!!; that may help you understand why one guy at 146 pounds looks bigger than another at 144.

    todaline on March 3rd, 2012 at 7:14 AM
  103. Todaline: Earlier, you said something in regards to what politicians do towards some people. You are so right. Terrible plight many have to take due to the injustices of many corrupt politicians, and its happening everywhere…

    1200 Techs on March 3rd, 2012 at 3:33 PM
  104. 1200, I have lived on three different Continents and the misery was all the same, just spoken in a different language. Too bad most people don’t understand that they’re being taken for a ride. Politicians get into politics to make sure the furture will be bright for their families, nothing else (those who do it out of ideology are either thrown out, murdered or become dictators). I guess that’s how the human being functions.

    todaline on March 3rd, 2012 at 4:55 PM
  105. Dondon’s reaction is quite normal. Who wants to hear bad stuff about his/her country of origin? For everyone, the country where you were born is a sanctuary, and you become very defensive when people say anything bad about it. You create a tradition that has little or nothing to do with that country and when asked about your supposed tradition, you say happily: that’s how we do it in the “Old Country”. Does it matter that it is not true? You, yourself don’t even know that the food you call Italian has nothing to do with what they eat over there, or the sausage you call German is not, etc…

    Having, as I said, lived on three Continents, I’ve seen people celebrate things that they don’t in the country of origin, but hey, all good, it makes people happy to think that they did not lose their identity.

    todaline on March 3rd, 2012 at 5:10 PM
  106. @todaline

    I see u dont understand what i said, i just want the link/site as to where did u get your numbers/facts. You asked me for facts & numbers too, didnt you? And i gave that to you, i did a research and posted the site here.Now, cant u do the same. Maybe 1200 tech is right, me & my family are lucky to have not been a victim of crimes. Remember i gave u the site u asked of me, im hoping u do the same….or else what you’ve been saying here all along have no basis at all (phil crime rate).

    dondon on March 4th, 2012 at 5:35 PM

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