JULIO CHAVEZ & NONITO DONAIRE “ODDS & PREDICTIONS”
February 4th, 2012 By Pedro Fernandez
Alamodome, San Antonio, TX- (HBO) Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. (42-0-1. 31 KOs) vs. Marco Antonio Rubio (53-5-1, 46 KOs) (WBC* 160 lb. title) Odds/Prediction: Chavez 4-1. Annointed (toilet tissue, not paper) champion is a fraud until he eets World middleweight king Sergio Martinez. Chavez returns to site where his father got “gift decision” of century vs. Pernell Whitaker. Would love to see the kid get his d*** knocked in the dirt, but it is highly unlikely. Rubio a good candidate to get stopped!
BEST FILIPINO FIGHTER ON PLANET IN SEMI-MAIN EVENT
Nonito Donaire (27-1, 18 KOs) vs. Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. (21-1-1, 18 KOs) (vacant WBO 122 lb. title) Odds/Prediction: Donaire 3-1. Dropping $9,000 to win $3,000. Donaire is a better boxer, more talented, but the Filipino people and media are so far up Manny Pacquiao’s ass they are in his colon! Nonito will handle Vasquez with relative ease.
CRUISERWEIGHT TITLE ON THE LINE
Fraport Arena, Frankfurt, Germany- Yoan Hernandez (25-1, 13 KOs) vs. Steve Cunningham (24-3, 12 KOs) (IBF 200 lb. title) Odds/Prediction: Hernandez 2 1/2 to 1. Remmatch of 2011 fight that ended in Technical Decision 6 because of cut caused by head butt suffered by Hernandez. Cunningham in tough spot. Don’t see him winning.
Pedro Fernandez
You think Chavez will ever step in the ring with Martinez ? I do not think Chavez senior would approve of that !
Not JC Sr. Larry, but Jose Sillyman will do everything short of throwing him or his own son in front of an oncoming train to prevent Jr’s decpitation.
JC Jr. looked good today.
Pedro, don’t say “but the Filipino people and media are so far up Manny Pacquiao’s ass”. You are further from the truth. You cannot speak in behalf of the Filipino people and media. There are as many Filipinos against Pacquiao.
Donaire was not impressive.
Watched the last few rounds of the Cunningham match (missed the knockdown) and from what I saw it looked like Cunningham just scraped by. Obviously the knockdown(s?) made a difference, but I don’t agree with the final scores.
Apparently Jr “forgot” to take the post fight drug test. Another Freddie Roach fighter behaving suspiciously.
Todaline, you hit the nail on the head. ANOTHER Freddie Roach fighter> Didn’t Air Khan get popped? We know Chavez did before.
I’m not aware of Khan being on the juice (or pills, or shake, or clear & cream) but I find it suspicious that there are so many Roach fighters linked to various doping problems. Although I’m happy for Roach, being myself from Massachusetts, I can’t close my eyes and cheer on as we see strange things from his gym.
Chavez Jr is already a convicted cheater, busted for using diuretics, puts on excessive weight after weigh-ins, busted for drunk driving during training camp….this guy is a mess, it’s not suspicion at this point. He’s already been caught once, I think it’s obvious he struggles to make 160..why else would he magically skip out on a post fight drug test. This guy is the poster boy of having too many enablers, Top Rank, WBC, Texas commission(one of the worst). What bothers me the moist is what has this guy done thats so great to deserve this goldstar treatment? Be the son of a legend/ He’s a decent fighter who does decent numbers, but in my opinion this supposed “investment” will come crashing down once he fights a decent fighter he doesn’t outweigh by 10-15 pounds. I don’t think any fighter should be allowed to skip out on post fight test without accountability, regardless if the commission and WBC “forgot” as they state to purchase the tests.If they forgot, the commission head should be suspended, he’s not doing his job, and Suiliman if he had any integrity wouldn’t be sitting here acting clueless…he sounds like a conspirator.
@Tony
“but the Filipino people and media are so far up Manny Pacquiao’s ass”
In America it ok to generalize (East) Asians. For example, it would not be socially acceptable to say/write “but the (African American/Jewish/Hispanic) people and media are (insert generalization here)”
Of course the defense for that is “but the (insert East Asian nationality here) people are indeed (insert generalization here)”. And again, there are similar generalizations that can be made about other ethnic groups but stating those publicly is frowned upon.
Welcome to America
Air Khan did not get popped for steroids. It was asked it in the form of a question. He was mentioned in several Google articles as being “suspected.” So, I want to clairfy that I wasn’t accusing Air Khan, I was asking the question. But no other major stable in boxing has had as many steroid and drug use accusations, in my memory, than fighters working with or around Freddie Roach and Alex Ariza.
KP, you’re 300% right on almost all points. The only one where you’re wrong is when you write Sulaiman and integrity (in this case a lack of but still…) in the same sentence. How this guy was able to rebuild that house of belts that I call Worst Boxing Council is beyond me. I thought that after the Rochiggiani fiasco he’d be out of the picture, but I guess I was wrong. As for Chavez Jr, just remember that his promoter goes by the sweet name of Robert Arum (the name rings a bell, is he the same guy who promotes Manny Pacquiao, the man who’ll fight anyone, anytime as long as Arum is the one to chose who the opponent is?).
@StickItIn, I would agree with you, being from a different culture myself, but there are statistics showing that on a Pac fight night the crime rate is 0%, which means that the whole nation is behind Pac. So Pedro is not generalizing, he’s stating a FACT. Now. I’ll say that he could’ve found nicer words to say the same thing, but it still true that my Filipino brothers seem eager to believe whatever Pac tell them. Let’s be sincere, how can a man with Pac limitations be elected to congress? What limitations? Just ask Bob Arum, who’s robbing him blind how limited your congressman is.
Pedro, indeed no other Gym has had as many fighters involved, in one way or another, with accusations or use of doping. And what did Fred Roach get?: trainer of the year. You know in the US it’s very simple: play nice with the press and all your sins will be swept under the rugs. On the contrary if you’re not nice with the omnipotent press (see the Mayweathers, Apple for example) people will actually go out of their way to dig dirt on you, the same dirt or a “cleaner one” they swept under the rug when the story was about the other guy, and publish it. A Nation of TREND FOLLOWERS.
@todaline
It is not a fact, it remains a generalization but more importantly you have just given license to continue the behavior
St ick, if on a given fight day the crime rate goes from whatever it is to ZERO, then the guy is everybody’s idol. I agree that Pedro could’ve found a nicer way to say the same thing, say: they love him soon much that they’d do anything for him, or some something like that. It is polite, but means the same thing. So call it what you want, it still a fact.
Correction: soo much, or something like that…
@todaline
Those zero crime rate whenever pac fights is just an exageration, crime still happens but were not just reported. Or maybe, those criminals just love to see pac fights. But what about those other people who are not criminals? Stickltin is correct, it is still generalization.
dondon, since we’re high on facts here, do you have any FACT to back your statement or is it just your OPINION? I’m going by FACTS reported by journalists. By what are you going?
@todaline
i mean, criminals are maybe 2 to 3 percent of the philippines’ population, if they stopped doing crime just to watch pac…..them do not represent the whole nation.
dondon, you seem to have a lot of statistics about the Philippines, unless you’re pulling that from that place where the sun never shines. According to you, about 1.8 million out of the 93,500 million people in the Philippines are criminals. 1.8 Mil people can do a lots of damage, but if suddenly they stop their activity, wow, how nice. Thanks Manny.
Now, let’s get serious. The real number of criminals in the country is about 7.5 million, which is about 8%. Statistics from 2004. What do you have to add? Please facts, not opinions.
@todaline,
Im not talking about the numbers, im talking about the percentage, if u said 8%, then im right, those 8% do not represent the whole nation.
Dondon, how slippery are you? The numbers ARE the %, and if you want to talk about the %, then you probably know that according to statistics, over 61% of the Manilla population are considered CRIMINALS. Over 61%. I will not insult you by translating that into numbers as you don’t like numbers. You only like percentage. As if numbers were the enemy of %. Did you skip Math classes or were you busy ogling the teacher’s chest?
@todaline
You are exaggerating again, 61% of Manila’s population are criminals? Hope u got it from a RELIABLE SOURCE! And stop with the insult, did i mentioned any insult to you. Hope you hop from one precint to another just to get that percentage. Many crimes in Manila were mostly done by the same people after they bailed out. Been to more or less 30 precint and i found that it was the same people/person who commit these crimes!
dondon, where in my post, do I insult you? Since you said that you’d rather use % than #s, I asked you JOKINGLY if you you skipped Math classes or were too busy ogling the teacher’s chest. Is that an insult? Now, I provided facts, numbers and you come back telling me that I was exaggerating. How would you know that this is an exaggeration since you don’t know if it is true or not? Give me fact, numbers or percentage, since that’s what you like, proving me wrong and we’ll call my post exaggerated, or even better a lie. Deal?
@todaline
Since u r the math expert, you do the math and tell me if it is 61% of Metro Manila’s population are criminals. Just look at the data below.
“Last year?s total number of crimes was 41,765, lower than the 59,682 cases reported in 2009, data from the NCRPO showed”
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/topstories/topstories/view/20110205-318617/Metro-Manila-crimes-dip-by-30-in-2010police
“Metro Manila has a registered population of 11,553,427 people. However, the greater urban area of Manila which includes Metro Manila and the suburbs in the surrounding provinces puts the population at around 20,075,000 people (2009 estimate). ”
http://ph.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091120192240AANnhSa