HAS PACMAN BITTEN OFF MORE THAN HE CAN CHEW?
October 7th, 2009 By Pedro Fernandez
PACMAN GETTING LIT UP LIKE A CHRISTMAS TREE IN GYM
Los Angeles, CA- Having confirmed what has been running rampant on many a website, Manny Pacquiao has been getting his head handed to him in sparring. The Filipino phenom, on one hell of a roll seeing he’s dusted Oscar De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton in two most recent outings, these wins “suspect” to a degree, may have expanded Manny’s hat size. The sparring partners, Shawn Porter (10-0, 8 KOs) and Urbano Antillon (25-1, 19 KOs). And while Porter fights above 150, Urbano is a lightweight (135 lbs). Both men are beating on Manny like a drum!
BRING IN A SLOW OLD MEXICAN? THAT SHOULD MAKE MANNY LOOK GOOD!
The Pacquiao camp is bringing in former lightweight champ Jose Luis Castillo (60-9, 52 KOs). Having always been of the opinion that Manny needs somebody to stand right in front of him to win, and that he’s avoided fighting men that have a Black style, in that they can move in and out and box on their toes, the licking he’s been getting by Porter seems to bolster that notion. In Castillo, who hasn’t won a significant fight sans controversy in many years, is about as old and slow as one can get.
HOW CAN ONE QUESTION THE WINS OVER OSCAR & RICKY?
Because De La Hoya, 35 at the time of last years match, old for a prizefighter who has been fighting in the upper echelons of boxing, hadn’t made 147 lbs. since a 2001 fight with the late Arturo Gatti. In addition, the manner in which De La Hoya tok the weight off, being near or at 147 weeks in advance, was one of the dumbest moves when it comes to making weight since Ray Leonard agreed to a same day 8 AM weigh in for the last bout of his career with Hector Camacho in 1997, this after having not fight in better than six years. As for Hatton, he simply had no respect for Pacquiao, walking in with his hands down and inviting the phenom to simply punch away, much like William Joppy did with Felix Trinidad when he was faced with a boxer ascending in weight.
PACMAN HAS BITTEN OFF TOO MUCH THIS TIME!
The more someone looks at the Miguel Cotto-Manny Pacquiao fight, the more you realize that Cotto is bigger, stronger, and punches harder than the resident of General Santos City in the Philippines. Although the fight is still a month away, all of the intangibles present do not cast a positive eye on Pacquiao’s chances against the Puerto Rican. If I had to predict a winner today, it would be Cotto by KO!
Pedro Fernandez
“In addition, the manner in which De La Hoya tok the weight off, being near or at 147 weeks in advance, was one of the dumbest moves when it comes to making weight..”
- Why? Thanx.
HAS PACMAN BITTEN OFF MORE THAN HE CAN CHEW?
Yes. Next question?
Where have you been reading that Manny has been handles in sparring?
Great fight but I’m liking Cotto more and more. Manny’s head is large in proportion to his body and I see Floyd using it for a speedbag should Manny get by Cotto. People who say Cotto is slowing need to check the Rican’s resume of late: he’s fought all comers. Who else has wins over Judah, Mosley and Clottey? Give this guy respect already. Floyd and Manny beat the same 2 shot guys to get where they are now while Miguelito has walked through fire with real welters.
I don’t blog much and this is the only site I blog on because this site seems to have bloggers with knowledge (most anyway). I predicted before the Clotty fight that within three fights Miguel would be #1 pfp in the world. I also said that Clotty whom had never been hurt, knocked down or stopped would see them all on that night. Two out of three ain’t bad. Don’t get me wrong I am a realist before I am a Cotto fan and only had him winning that fight by one point. But how many fighters would have continued to fight ahead on the score cards after a cut like that (head butt,Cotto has never been cut by a punch with the exception of hands of stone) against a manchild like Clotty. I thinks with two eye’s he would have stopped him or at least a majority decision. Now to Pac-man, he is absolutely going to get destroyed. Not only he is to small but I would like to know where they get that he is a sound boxer from. Extremely fast, powerful (for his size 135), and relentless yes. But if any of you on the Pac-aid want to challenge what I am questioning then go to any fight or you tube video and really watch his prized footwork when he misses a punch. I think you’ll be disappointed to see his driving foot will come off the ground more especially with “laser” left hand. Like him or hate Miguel has excellent technique and the best timing in the business. What do you really think he is going to do to him? Pac will be sent to politics earlier than expected. And this won’t be enough to get him the number one spot because there will still be haters saying Pac was to small when the drug of choice has them talking like he’s a heavyweight coming down to welter. But guess who’s next. Talk to haw Nov 15th.
I have been saying I think this was not a smart fight for Pacquiao since they announced. I think the only way Cotto loses this fight is if Pacquiao magically turns into Floyd Mayweather, let me explain before you go thinking that I am a big Money fan, I am not (great skills, just not someone I will pull for). Pacquiao will be willing to trade with Cotto and this is what I think will cost him. Pacquiao is a fighter, much like Cotto, who tries to beat thier opponent not just win by taking the least amount of chances possible ala Mayweather. Pacquiao and Cotto both have the mentality that they are going to get the best of the other guy in the ring with them, not put on a show for the judges to think they did.
No disrespect to Manny but Miguel is going to show everyone how Floyd SHOULD have handled Marquez(no disrespect ot Marquez either who is a great but smaller fighter). Once Floyd realized that he could hurt Marquez and Marquez couldn’t hurt him he should have stepped on the gas and pressed for the KO. Both men bring tremendous skills into the ring but Cotto is just too big and Manny too agressive for his own good in this case. Soon enough we will be watching what happens when the best lightweight in the world faces arguably the best welterweight again, but this time the welter is a closer. I also think coach Roach may have taken a little too much of the pac-hype to heart and agreed to a match up that he should have known better than to take. Of course this is all my humble opinion, in any case I am a fan of both fighters so I am just hoping for a good fight even if it finds me eating crow at the end.
Great, well-thought out responses guys… nothing more can be said other than “I agree”.
Manny has too much foot speed…Cotto, while being a great boxer is no Floyd, and I dopn’t think Manny will just stand right in front of Cotto and trade. Think of Manny vs David Diaz. Manny will be all over him, the only difference here is that because Cotto is a much better offensive fighter than Diaz an dDiaz probably is better defensively (he keeps his gloves high) Manny will have and see more openings. Cotto is a good puncher, but I don’t see him doing enough damage overall to win. Seeing him struggle with a Southpaw like Judah leads me to believe he will have problems with the speed and southpaw style, and also Manny throws a lot more punches than Judah. Cotto has a great chance, but I just don’t sdee his size making enough difference. If he was a bit taller, I would give him a better shot because them his jab would have a chance of being more effective.
I also thought from the VERY beginning that Cotto will certainly KO Pacquiao. First of all we’re talking about a guy who’s lost only 1 fight, a fairly close and controversial one at that. Pac has lost at least 3 times already. Cotto’s just to big and maybe the best welter out there.
I mean if the gym reports are true and Pacquiao is getting pounded by far lesser fighters than Cotto in sparring, what can you say? Cotto would be a lock.
BUT I just watched Hatton-Pacquiao again and wow! Ricky isn’t slow, has good boxing ability…and he got crushed. There is NOTHING he could have done to win that fight; Pacuqaio’s speed was absolutely brutal.
Cotto, from what I’ve seen, doesn’t fight in a “black” style anyway. He is big, strong and skilled, but it’s not like he’s Ray Leonard.
Cotto will beat Manny with some room to spare. Manny is very fast, but he is not 200% faster that Judah and Mosley. Those who argue that Cotto is slow, watch the Mosley fight again: Cotto matched his speed, and even more, his timing was way better than Mosley’s. Cotto has the ability to time your punches, and beat you at your own game.
Cotto is arguably and undefeated fighter, after Margarito showed the secret behind his power. Add to Cotto’s arsenal his underrated technique, his strength, his accuracy, his wide array of punches, his body punching, and his fast combinations, and Manny is in for a rude awakening.
I do like Manny, I really do, but he will loose here, no doubt about it.
Hey guys that favored Cotto, What if 90% of the time when Cotto retaliates, Manny is not already there? You can’t defeat what you can’t hit! I would say Cotto is just a bigger David Diaz and that’s all.
I just can’t wait to tell you all after the fight on Nov. 14, I TOLD YOU SO!!!
Cotto shouldn’t do anything more than to stand in front of the little guy and set him up. If Cotto is any good he should be able to do what he does best and that is overpower the little guy. I mean Cotto should be ready for Manny in and out style and that is it. What else can Manny do against a beast lilke Cotto?
Cotto has more reach, more power, and can probably take anything the little guy throws at him for a least five rounds. He should find out if the little guy can take his punches at whatever price he has to pay. Cotto has to fight his fight, he is the bully, the big guy, so Cotto should fight big and don’t worry about the results as the Boricua warrior will prevail and restore order in the ever so popular catchweight division that Bob Arum and Freddie Roach has created for Manny.
Manny did not beat the best lightweight or best Jr welter as Hatton was always overrated and there were better Jr welters than Hatton. Why didn’t Pacman fight a Juan Diaz or Bradley if he wanted to prove something in those weight classes?
Manny stands no chance against a Floyd or any decent welter, so if Cotto is not damanged goods he should win in somewhat easy fashion.
Who is like Ray Leonard? I mean there is only one welter who was probably better that Ray Leonard and that would have been Ray Robinson. Also, Ray Robinson might have been the best middleweight ever. Ray Leonard is in the top 20 alltime greatest fighters.
Manny alltime great status is really a question mark. I would say rightnow he is in the top 30 alltime. Should Manny beat Cotto, he goes to maybe top 20 alltime. A win against Floyd( who is the truly only great fighter left for Manny to beat) and one can make an argument for top 5 all time. Is it how good the little guy is.
I am not saying Cotto is a great fighter because he is not even close to being a great fighter, but he is solid and better than average. Should Manny beat him, being that he is giving away so much size, and being that Manny have beaten the best Jr lighweights, and best superfeathers of this era, and the linear very overrated welter champ (Hatton)and one can not argue his all time great status. Moreover, add the beating he put on Oscar for an !!!! point, but even without the beating he gave Oscar Manny is alltime great.
Should Manny beat the great Floyd who is the best fighter of this generation and truly a great fighter and he should be top 5 all time. If Manny fight floyd close for 12 rounds he still should be in the top 10 alltime.
Floyd Mayweather like Manny is or should be in the top 30 alltime already. He dominated the 130 and 135 divisions and was avoided at 140. Beat a solid 154 pounder who was not weight drained in Oscar. At 140 no one wanted any part of Floyd and that included Cotto and Hatton. Floyd would have beaten the 140 version of Cotto in easy fashion, and if Cotto beat Manny Floyd can have some vindication.
It can be concluded that Floyd would have beaten Hatton at any weight class. Heck why didn’t Cotto fight Hatton at 140? Cotto was not a very good Jr welter as he was always weight drained. The Floyd who destroyed Gatti would have walked all over Cotto or Hatton.
If Pacquiao really is the pound-for-pound king, then he should fight Cotto without the catchweight (he was even demanding 143 at the time of the negotiations in order to recapture the Morales/Dela Hoya magic of weight-drained opponents). Until Pacquiao can do that, he’s open to criticism and questions, and no fanatic, “I support Pacquiao because I’m a Filipino” nuthugger can change that.
Sounds like alot of Floyd love here, JTP is your last name Hayman? LOL. Lets step back for a moment and determine what makes one fighter great and another ‘just’ good. What fight(s) have made the argument for FMJ being great? I can only think of one, Corrales. This fight was him taking on the best that could be found in his division and dominating. Is FMJ a supremely gifted athlete? Yes he is. Does he have the talents neccesary to be a great? Yes, but he has yet to really do so. Does he take the fights that make him the most money with the least risk? Yes, and this makes him a great businessman NOT a great fighter. Want to see what Floyd could possibly be if he put it on the line and fought the best to beat them take a look at Pernell Whitaker. It’s all hype until he can measure up to that stick, (greatness as defined by defense, which is his game) he can’t legitamitely be considered great until he does, period end of story. Great fighters fight the best fighters available to fight within reason, this is how greatness is earned. The word is thrown around far too lightly in my opinion.
I think Pacquiao has a far better claim to greatness (and the p4p title) than Floyd ever had, take an unbiased look at quality of opposition and I think you cant help but agree. In fact I think Cotto’s quality of opposition has been better than FMJ as well. Floyd as top 30 all time is really silly.
Seems like you just dont like Cotto, beating Shane Mosley was easily the equal of Floyds greatest victory but Cotto is a B+ fighter and Mayweather is top 30? Mosley is a much more complete fighter than Corrales ever hoped to be, and I can say that even though Corrales was one of my favorite fighters for many years. Like it or not both Cotto and Mosley have a better claim to the title of best welter in the world than Floyd.
There are more intangibles that have been rumoured. I hear Pacquiao has been jogging with Air Cadets and playing basketball at night, instead of the strict training and rest that Roach has been advocating.
I was interested in seeing this fight in person (the last fight being the 2000 fight of the year between Trinidad and Vargas) but after hearing these rumours, I’m starting to believe that this will not be as competitive as I thought. I’m leaning to the more disciplined Cotto, who uses an effectively timed jab and excellent footwork to neutralize faster opponents. Plus he’s naturally bigger.
But much respect for the true PFP king: he’s challenging himself with tough assignments and is making boxing fans proud.
To Punchy,
Why Floyd is a great fighter?
He beat Genaro Hernandez for the legitimate Jr lightweight title. He became a legitimate world champ after his 17 pro fight. He then dominated the jr Lighweight division. At lightweight he did beat a great champ in Castillo who is very under rated, and very durable, not only that, Floyd fought him twice to end the controversy. At 140 he beats up Bruseles, Corley and Gatti, at 147 he beats Mitchell, Judah, linear champ Baldomir. These fight were all walk in the park except for the Judah fight which was somewhat tough for 4 rounds. Then, Floyd fights the 154 version of Oscar, this was a good weight for Oscar and Floyd easily outpoints Oscar. The fight looked like sparring as Oscar could not come inside, Floyd never felt the need to engage Oscar too much as he was really never in trouble of losing the fight. After Oscar Floyd fights Hatton, who I heard walks around at about 175 lbs, and never fought below Jr, welter likke Floyd. Floyd uses Hatton’s aggression against him and easily wins every minute of every rounds before KO Hatton in the 10 round. Hatton was over rated, but he was undefeated untill he met Floyd. Floyd is 39-0, and out all those fights only one was controversial where folks taught Castillo might have had the better of him in Floyd-Castillo one. Yes, floyd has not beaten great fighters above 140, but afar from Gatti these guys were solid and all had a size edge over Floyd, so that counts for something. Oscar is considered great by some (not me) and Floyd beat him at 154, Floyd did not asked for a catchweight. Like with Pacquia Oscar thought he was going to beat up on the little guy, except that against Floyd Oscar can’t say he was weight drained.
Floyd has fought 23 championship fights from 130-154lbs
Floyd is 23-0
Only first Castillo fight was close.
Opponents winning % 90
Losing % 8
Draw % 2
Juan Manuel Marquez
Ricky Hatton
Oscar De La Hoya
Carlos Manuel Baldomir
Zab Judah
Sharmba Mitchell
Arturo Gatti
Henry Bruseles
DeMarcus Corley
Phillip N’dou
Victoriano Sosa
Jose Luis Castillo
Jose Luis Castillo
Jesus Chavez
Carlos Hernandez
Diego Corrales
Emanuel Augustus
Gregorio Vargas
Carlos Gerena
Justin Juuko
Carlos Alberto Ramon Rios
Angel Manfredy
Genaro Hernandez
JTP – If you arent Hayman, he should give you a job writing his press for Floyd. Nice response! I am happy/impressed to receive such a well though out and delivered counterpoint, will follow up with mine as soon as I am back near a computer with the necessary time….
Interesting article.
I watched the Pacquiao/De la Hoya fight again last night. Pacquaio moved in and out with blinding speed, his lefts and rights repeatedly finding their targets, leaving De La Hoya confused, bothered and bewildered, maybe even bewitched. Nacho finally told him at the end of round eight: “Let’s stop the fight. You can’t handle his speed.”
Next I watched the Pacquiao/Hatton fight. Hatton was the same boxer who fought 44 fighters, including Mayweather, before Pacquaio. He lost only once, to Mayweather by knockout in the tenth, I believe. Pacquio flattened him in two. It was not because Hatton fought with his face first (he didn’t.) He fought the same way 44 times before. He just could not see Pacquiao’s punches coming.
Finally, I watched the Cotto/ Margarito fight. Cotto was quick too, he boxed, he punched with precision. But Margarito kept on coming (was he on drugs too?)Margarito beat Cotto with his fists of cement, and Cotto had to quit in the eleventh.
I see Pacquiao doing to Cotto what he did to De la Hoya, repeatedly hitting him with straight lefts and rights, hooks and uppercuts. Cotto would box and dance, but Pacquiao would be faster. Cotto would be cut in the early rounds, and he would bleed badly in the later rounds. Cotto is strong and has the heart of a warrior, but I see him quitting, not being knocked out but quitting, by round 11.
I simply believe that Cotto is a quart low and will be decimated within five rounds. He was battered in his last start and he looked FAR older than advertised. Ali and Douglas looked bad before some of their biggest nights. Freddie Roach is crazy like a fox with his drama-sensitive updates adding fuel to the fire…but he’s certain that his fighter will come out looking all the better when he dusts Cotto.
I’m not fooled for a minute.
I’m rooting for Manny, but i don’t think he will win this time. My logical explanation is that they are EQUALLY skilled figher, BUT Cotto is MUCH BIGGER, YOUNGER, STRONGER, HEAVIER than Manny. Although I don’t want to belittle Manny’s win against Oscar (going up to 147 is amazing!), a fight with Cotto, who is at his peak, will be much different. Unless Manny has something up his sleeves, like a game plan, such as what he did to Hatton, then things might become more interesting. But I’m telling you, it’s just fair to put Manny as the underdog in this fight.
I realize that Manny is not undefeated but I do believe he does not know how to lose. I just can’t see Coto beating him. Good fight, hell yes, but Manny shall prevail in the end… And I am not a fan of either, just expressing an opinion.
I think its fair to say cotto is going to land his shots in on manny he boxes well and can stand trade.Manny can move around like he did on oscar but cotto is not just going to be stationary i think this going to be evident in the first couple of rounds and i think we might get some fireworks around the 4th.I remember this line Larry Merchant said after Trinidad vs Hopkins(regarding Trinidad)”AS SOOON AS YOU LABEL SOMEONE A GENIUS THEY ARE BOUND TO DISSAPOINT YOU” I think manny is going to find this out on Nov 14 but then again I swore oscar was going to whoop him (if he wasn’t weight drained)and i thought the Hatton fight would be tougher.If he beats cotto i will never doubt him again(until he fights Mayweather of course)
I’m a fan of both Miguel and Manny, but after watching and analyzing their previous fights, I’m convinced that the balance tilt on Pacman. Size advantage will offset by speed and power.
What we had in Manny is a fighter who had excelled beyound our expectations. And it’s puzzling to me that he had been able to carry his punch where welters such as Oscar had to respect he power. I feel Oscar was taken out of his game once he felt Manny punch was going to be an issue. I think Oscar thought he could walk through the little guy. I still feel that if Cotto is any good or solid as some of you think, than he beats Manny up. In this case speed should not matter. Duran was never faster than Leonard and he make Leonard fight the wrong fight and he won a very close fight.
Manny is not Leonard where as Ray was a master boxer would would had outboxed most men in history. Manny doesn’t try to outboxed you, so his speed is less of a factor. What’s Cotto has to do is stand his ground, don’t move back ever and trade or counter trade with Manny. He should go to the body, the shoulder, the head whatever part of Manny he can touch and he will low down the great little man enough so he can catch him with a left hook or a right hand and this fight will be over.
Not to take away anything from Manny, but he could not outboxed JMM, so he didn’t beat JMM by outboxing him. He simply was too powerful and to fast, but against Cotto his power edge is gone. Is Manny speed enough to be a solid champ three division above his best weight class? I don’t think so….
Manny is a great fighter. He is my favourite fighter. I think the wins against JMM are debateable but I also think that at this point another Manny/JMM fight would result in a clear cut Pacman victory (he’s just gotten too strong). Against anyone of the same weight, Manny wins.
But… Cotto is not the same weight. Cotto is sooo much bigger I believe this fight is verging on dangerous.
Here’s the thing: Manny is not effective when he’s backed-up and will not be effective if his ability to move is taken away. Look at Cotto’s early fights when he was squeezing down to weight against smaller men. He’s brutal, aggressive, always backing the other guy up. And the precision body shots are debilitating.
At welter, Cotto has modified the way he fights: Mosley, Margarito etc. are just bigger dudes that Cotto has had to box. But faced with Manny, it’ll be like Cotto’s early fights.
I believe Manny will put on an incredible, swarming display of power punching from all angles but Cotto will punch and bully his way through, protecting himself enough that it’s his punches that end-up doing the most damage.
Prediction: Manny goes down, in a blaze of glory, but as an obviously defeated fighter, before the end of the 10th. There will be nothing to be ashamed of. It’ll just be a case of Cotto being too much.
I’m going on record. The Paquaio who obliterated Hatton was one of the most lethal fighters I’ve ever seen–fast beyond all comprehension and devastatingly powerful.
That Pacuiao, even a Paquiao who APPROACHES that version, decimates Cotto and anyone else not named Floyd Mayweather.
I’ll say Pac KO Cotto by rd 10.
I think Pac takes this one. Cotto has been in some real tough fights recently and I just see Pac being more preserved at this point. The Clottey fight, he had to walk through hell to get that and that was this summer! If Cotto gets cut early, I see the fight being stopped on cuts or TKO. Lets throw the KO out the window becuause I just don’t see that happening…The flipside is if a K.O. were to happen, the more likely candidate to do it is Cotto IMO given that Manny’s chin truly hasn’t been tested at welter…My call is Manny wins, based on superior speed and the power behind the speed.
cotto will dismantle pacman with ease because not only is he bigger, stronger,takes a better shot n gives a better shot but hes a far superior boxer! cotto by late stoppage or easy un dec! lets not forget cottos only loss was to a 6 foot tough guy with loaded gloves who has a chin like hagler!
Do not simply base your picks by watching the last 2 or 3 fights. It is safe to say that both Margarito and Clottey would have beaten De la Hoya and Hatton at welterweight.
If anything, the last 2 fights Cotto had may have been fought with serious handicaps. With margarito there might have been cheating and against Clottey he fought with a serious cut for 10 of the 12 rounds.
Every time Cotto has fought fighters his size or slightly bigger, he has dominated. Cotto was able to handle the speed of Mosley and Judah. I would guess that both punch as hard as Pacquiao too.
Cotto had a tough outing against Torres at 140.That was 10 fights ago! He got wobbled in the second after trying to mix it up with the “replacement” in Torres! I know the weight drained Cotto ain’t the same fighter at 147, but nevertheless, to say Cotto is the same after tough fights with Torres, Mosley, Margarito, and most recently as EARLY this SUMMER, Joshua Clottey. The last tough fight Pac has had was with JMM and before that, the great Erik Morales. Pac is much more well preserved and at this point, has what it takes to beat Cotto with his unbelievable hand and foot speed and the power behind that speed.
I meant to say Cotto is not the same after tough fights with…..
Pac’s training camp is a mess. Looks like he’s going to get eaten alive by Cotto, as opposed to just humiliated.
Castillo says that Cotto is damaged goods. Well, of course Castillo will say good things about Pacquiao, he’s under Pac’s payroll! It’s as simple as that. In reality, Pac is lagging way, waaay behind Cotto in training. I see Pac losing against Cotto. He can’t even win against Shawn Porter.
Whilst on twitter I heard some disturbing news for pacnuthuggers. It seems that Manny got dropped in sparring. I don’t know if it is true or not and I’m sure we will find out soon enough but here is the link of the twitter account with the news: http://twitter.com/officialscore
These are the quotes:
We are hearing reports that Pacquiao got knocked out in sparring. Is this true and was it Shawn Porter?
Now we are hearing conflicting stories? Now they are saying Pacquiao got dropped in sparring and was down for a little over 10 seconds.
Maybe Mr Marley will have an article about it later?
all signs lead to a Pacquiao loss
Pac is only to blame
he is so dumb to set up training camp in Baguio
he is not listening to Roach, Roach has the brains and Pac pays him for it. Pac doesn’t have a brain to begin with
Showbiz. You ain’t an actor Pac. Look at how fugly you are. You’re a boxer. You should train hard knowing you are up against a natural 147lber.
Pac is biting off more than he can chew, just because he defeated a what….shot ODLH, and a no skill slugger in Hatton. He thinks he can handle the big guys of boxing. He is still a 130lber who believes he belongs to 140-147.
This ain’t your territory Pac. It’s Cotto’s. The best you could do is to outdo Cotto in training so you would at least have a decent showing.
But look at your poor choices. Baguio training camp, starting late in training, showbiz commitments…..all poor choices
COTTO WINS!!!
if Manny is to lose his fight on nov14, it will be because of his distractions in training. Manny’s asset in every fight is how well he prepares, but this time it’s disaster. thanks to stupid advisers like Koncz.
If Manny has a bad training camp, it will only increase the gap between Cotto and Manny. No excuses here. A well trained Pacquiao will loose to Cotto, simple because Cotto is stronger, and becasuse Cotto is the better boxer, much more skilled.
You’re not pacman@yahoo or Manny. Get another name/handle please & resubmit.
From what I understand, people from any training camp regularly feed false information the the public. This is part of the psychological games that take place before fights.
I personally don’t believe most of what I hear from these groups unless there is a video tape demonstration like when Tyson was knocked down by Page in a sparring session before the Douglas fight.
It’s a game, don’t waste your time trying to analyze something that may not even be true.
It wasn’t just Greg Page, Mike Jamieson had Mike reeling as well. Bottom line is that was true in 1990 and Pac getting muffed in 2009 is true too! It happens.
Ok, never heard about the Jamieson episodes prior to the fight, but did see the video footage of Page dropping Tyson. I’m sure it happens, but I have always been curious about how much the facts are manipulated by the camps for whatever advantage can be gained. I guess i’m more cynical and have to see before believing.
i don’t think cotto will beat manny that easy.Well cotto is a much bigger, much stronger and much heavier than mannny but this ability of cotto will not be a hindrance to a complete boxer like manny.Im pretty sure that footwork,speed and power of manny will be the key to his triumph on nov.14.Watch out……