GABRIEL CAMPILLO ROBBED WITH GUNS AS TAVORIS CLOUD WINS!
February 19th, 2012 By Pedro Fernandez
You Could Smell It From Texas!
THIS IS WHY PEOPLE THINK BOXING IS FIXED!
San Francisco, CA- Having been around the boxing game since the late 1960s, I’ve seen some decisions that made you wonder, “Who am I to believe, those judges or are my eyes lying to me?” Last year, I stood in this the Financial District of Frisco’ and asked the following question, “Is professional boxing fixed?” To the surprise of even myself, 72 out of 100 casual sports fans answered to the affirmative, that boxing was fixed! If you saw the IBF light heavyweight (175 lbs) title match featuring challenger Gabriel Campillo and champion Tavoris Cloud emanating from Corpus Christi, TX, Saturday night and I put forth to you the same aforementioned interrogatory, you would have to say, “Yes, the sport of boxing is definitely fixed!”
HOW CAN YOU WIN NINE ROUNDS & LOSE A 12 ROUND FIGHT?
After dropping Gabriel Campillo twice in the opening round, I scored the stanza 10-7 for Cloud. From that point forward, Cloud did not win another stanza until round six. The last one could have gone to Cloud, not in my mind, only if you were looking to “give him” a round. But the other nine frames, Campillo won sans any debate. My scorecard read 116-112 for the Spaniard Campillo. Historian Ronald Marshall gave Cloud the first, sixth & final (12) round (115-113), while BoxingTalk.com writer Socrates Palmer had Cloud winning only the first and last, meaning a 116-112 win for Campillo!
TWO BLIND MICE OR A PAIR OF CROOKS?
The three judges tabbed the match as follows: Joel Elizondo had it 114-112 Cloud, Dave Robertson’s unbelievable score for the American Cloud was 116-110, while Dennis Nelson had Campillo up 115-111. Look, as UFC VP Marc Ratner used to tell me when he ran the Nevada State Athletic Commission after one his his judges had mucked up, “Who cares about the scores, as long as the right guy wins.” Well on this occasion, the “right” guy got f****d!
AFTER KNOCKDOWNS IN ROUND ONE CAMPILLO OWNED CLOUD
With clean punching, quite often in fistic bursts/combinations, Campillo, a southpaw (left handed) handled Cloud like a pimp would a prostitute, I mean Gabriel Campillo turned Tavoris Cloud out with his overall ring generalship like a whore on a some street corner. Looking masterful with his jab, hooks to the body and head, as well as left hand crosses that landed at will on Cloud’s cranium. Simply put, for this writer, it was one of the most sickening moments I’ve ever witnessed since being introduced to boxing when Cassius Clay faced Henry Cooper on TV in 1962.
WILL SCANDALOUS IBF BACK THE BLACK GUY?
Yes, I’m throwing the race card in here as the IBF, its history awash in scandal when founder Bob Lee took bribes from Don King (AKA Fuzzy Wuzzy), Cedric Kushner (AKA The Fatman) and Bob Arum, who admitted to bribing Lee with around $150,000 to get the sanctioning body (or mob, depending how you look at them) to get German Axel Schultz into the top 12 so he could fight then heavyweight champion George Foreman in 1995. Seeing Cloud is an African-American, will the almost all Black IBF hierarchy allow Cloud to fight anyone other than Gabriel Campillo in his next fight?
OR WILL THE IBF DO THE RIGHT THING?
And if Cloud’s cuts, above and below the left eye, if they are so severe that Cloud cannot fight again for more than four months, will IBF head Daryl Peoples do what’s right and anoint Campillo with the “interim” IBF championship and then mandate Cloud meet Campillo when he is facially able?
“YOU CAN’T CLEAN DIRT” WAS A FAMOUS HOWARD COSELL QUOTE!
After witnessing this atrocity, (I tried and cannot come up with a better adjective) I then saw Paul Williams get in the ring. The last time I saw him fight it was against Erislandy Lara on HBO from Atlantic City, NJ. HBO judge Harold Lederman had it 10-2 in rounds, 118-110 on points for Lara. All three judges who unaimously gave the fight to Williams were “suspended indefinetly.” This evening, Williams (41-2, 27 KOs) shutout Japanese upstart Nobuhiro Ishida (24-7-2, 9 KOs) in a 12-rounder.
FAT GUY NO MAS, ARREOLA SILENCES MEDINA!
Heavyweight Chris Arreola (35-2, 20 KOs) stopped unknown Eric Molina (18-2, 14 KOs) in round one.
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Pedro “Ashamed To Be Associated With Boxing” Fernandez
Pedro: I had it 115-111 Campillo. I gave the 10th as a gift round for Cloud. Simply put, Campillo beat the living snot out of Cloud and that’s about all you can say. He outlanded him in every category, showed outstanding ring gereralship and absolutely won the fight!! Any fight with Haymon and King involved gives me that bulls##t feeling about what is going to happen. As Tarver put it, Cloud should feel disgraced that he was given that gift. It was an out and out stickup on national TV and something should happen but we all know nothing will and the sport we love so much will go further to the dogs…..If you remember Bernstein said along about the 11th round, “I hope the judges get it right”… Looks like he had that feeling as well as the rest of us.
Anyone else think It was strange irony with that bribe getting Axel Schultz that tital shot? He beat Foreman ugly in that fight and they gave it to Foreman. Water is gonna always be wet, ice is always gonna be cold and boxing will forever be fucked up.
Oh yeah Arreola is putting that weight back on…the ghost of Tua returns
Sometimes yor comments are too incendiary for my liking Pedro, but this time I think you are right on the money!!! I have seen a lot of bad refereing in my life, but this was a horrendous robbery. Campillo gave a lesson to Cloud, he hit Cloud with everything but the kitchen sink.
Dou you know what I don’t like? All the usual alternatives are wrong for Campillo; if they order a rematch, they give Cloud the opportunity to win a fight he already lost. I would like to see the IBF overturning this result and giving Campillo his hard earned win, right away.
But I think this might be too much to ask from these crooks…
Pedro, I believe the two judges that scored the fight for Cloud were Texas judges that the Texas Boxing Commission appointed to the fight. Mark and Denny Nelson were appointed by the IBF with the approval of Texas. Many states let the sanctioning body have one or two officials and they use the other slots for their own people. The Texas judges were at the best incompetent and the worse crooks. I’m sure that Don King having Cloud may have swayed the two blind mice. I’m not saying that King bribed these fools, but the officials are terrible judges and were swayed by the presence of King.
Pedro,
Did you get the names of the 28 people who said Boxing WASN’T Fixed? I’m looking to sell the Golden Gate Bridge and I need a buyer.
The three judges did not have Williams unanimously over Lara. One judge, Al Bennett, had the fight even.
This is just the standard in boxing at this point. Before the decision was read you had a feeling it would be another bullshit decision and of course it was. 116-110 for Cloud? They just need to start banning judges for life when they come up with scores like that.
only in texas, dickey cole and his band of good-ole boys.
Judge Dennis Nelson is certified by the Association of Boxing Commissions and had Capillo winning. Judges David Robertson and Joel were NOT certified by the ABC and ruled for Cloud.
What a way to ruin a good fight. The upset of the year turns out to be most upsetting of the year! Boxing blows once again! That was a blueprint on how to lose fans. No offense, but I’m sure Cloud’s mom fainted, from DISBELIEF!
Gents, Campillo deserved a bit better, but I don’t see this as a robbery. Campillo started 3 points behind. You can make a case for at least 2 rounds being given to Cloud. In this case where’s the robbery? A close fight that should’ve been given to Campillo but robbery?
Todaline: one judge had Cloud winning 7 rounds with campillo winning 4 after the first round! seriously, how is that not robbery??? Look at his busted up face! Powerpunch stats, he got owned! Tell me where he won 7 rounds after the first?
The other judge had campillo winning six rounds with cloud winning five after the first..What fight were they watching?
Finally, why did Clouds mom faint? most likely from DISBELIEF!
1200, that judge was wrong, clearly. I have seen boxers with clean faces loose all the rounds, while the winner had a busted face, so the looks should not influence the scores. As I said, judging from my couch, Campillo seemed to have won, but if they had given the fight to Cloud by 1-2 points, it would have been OK with me. Now giving him those wide margins make it seem like they REALLY wanted him to win, and were “cooking the cards” from the beginning, just in case. But to me, this was not a robbery. Would you agree that if you start a fight with a 3 points deficit, and the other guy banks a round here and there, then he might come out as a winner?
The problem these days is that people are scoring a fight as ONE BIG “fight”. A fight is actually 12 smaller “fights”, and within each “fight” there are turns of events that might sway a judge or two, so at the end of the fight all you remember is that one guy seems to have won the majority of said fight. But you cannot take the fight as a whole, you have to score each round, one by one. And again, Campillo started with a 3 points deficit. All Cloud had to do was win some rounds here and there in the eyes of the judges (I sincerely thought Campillo won the fight 114-112, with makes it a close fight).
Todaline: Good point on it being 12 smaller fights…That’s how I judge fights too..But that wide margin, you would agree then the “cookin” certainly seemed to be on the menu.
Wouldn’t that in itself, be a robbery, considering the other guy can’t win regardless with that particular judge? If not, then how do you define robbery?
The only reason I brought up the looks because he got busted up round after round…If you look at the scorecards, the judge that had cloud winning by a two point edge gave cloud the last 3 rounds! If you watch those 3 rounds as seperate fights, I don’t see how anyone can justify he won all those 3 “mini” fights, can you?
It pisses me off because I had some friends over cause I had a feeling cloud campillo would be a barnburner and they were hyped up and were telling me this is a good fight! Round after round, they were impressed and we would call out the rounds and pretty much had a landslide..when the scores where read, they all pretty much said, that’s why I don’t like boxing..Its fixed!..I was so disgusted, I turned off the tv…
1200, there might have been an INTENTION to commit a robbery, but once again the fight itself doesn’t lend credence to the word robbery. Yes. yes and yes, the judge who gave Cloud a 6 point margin was wrong in my opinion just as the one who gave Campillo a 4 point margin should have given him a 1-2 points victory margin. Did he even take into account the 3 points Cloud had on the 1st round? Unless you think that Campillo won ALL of the remaining rounds there’s no way there would be a 4 points margin with a 3 points deficit starting the fight. We can agree that Cloud got some rounds here and there and it becomes a close fight, one way or another, and I’d have no problem with Campillo being given the nod as he seemed to be the better fighter that night.
But robbery? Problem these days is that that word is thrown a bit too easily.
Majority of knowledgable people gave Cloud two or three rounds most. A robbery is when something is stolen, something was and you are dead wrong!
Pedro I’m NOT disputing Campillo’s “win”. I’m merely disputing the notion of robbery. I personally (along with quite a few people) gave Cloud 4 rounds, including the first, and unanimously the victory to Campillo. That would make the fight about 114-112, hardly a robbery. That Campillo won in the eyes of most I have no problem with. My problem is with the word robbery (I also have to admit that there was probably intention to rob Campillo). What should be done is a rematch to see who is really the best.
I guess you don’t understand that a theft, whether it be your wallet by force or a fight by points is the same. I gave him two rounds. I polled two historians and two writers, the most they gave him was 3 rounds. I’d like to see you play Blackjack in Vegas, get a 21 and lose to a guy with 17, that’s what this was. You never fought, so I guess you can’t comprehend. He clearly won the fight and it was clearly taken from him, thus it was a robbery!
Pedro, I HAVE fought. Boxing and Martial Arts (lots of street as well). Was I any good? Probably not but enough to be posting here and to think of myself as fairly knowledgeable. By this definition of robbery how many have we witnessed lately without any of us being as outraged?
That being said, I’ll lay it ti rest.
Sir, Lara-Williama & this one stand out in recent times. Thanks for taking part! Pedro
Todaline: We agree Campillo won. Check. We agree that at the very least, one judge intended to rob Campillo, no matter what would’ve happened unless cloud gottko’d, cloud would’ve won on his scorecard.Check. For the life of me, I don’t see how in the world you still don’t process a robbery took place!
Todaline: Not that im an expert or anything, but if your going to suppose that one judge was in on it, wouldn’t you lean on that another judge should be on the take as well, to ensure a win? Unless of course they were half bribing and half taking a gamble….lol
Bye, Desmond!
Todaline:BTW, it is possible to win with four points going away, and NOT have to win EVERY single round like you said, even with a 3 point deficit. Dennis Nelson gave rounds 4 and 6 to cloud, and ended up with campillo winning 115-111…
1200, apparently I’m not gonna win this one. But I’ll repeat what I believe: Campillo won fair and square, there might’ve been collusion between the powers that be to rob the poor guy but the FIGHT ITSELF does not warrant the word robbery. And with that I salute the winner(s).