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ALL BUT DONE: FLOYD MEETS PAC IN 2012!
June 15th, 2011 By Jarrad Woods
Manny Pacquiao
New York, NY- Over the past couple of years there has been plenty of disappointment in both Floyd Mayweather (41-0, 25 KOs) and Manny Pacquiao (53-3-2, 38 KOs) for not finding common ground and settling terms for a mega bout. Whether some feel that Mayweather is avoiding Pacquiao by manipulating an escape route with unnecessary demands, or if Pacquiao is simply afraid to get caught ‘cheating’, makes little difference.
NO ONE WANTS TO SEE ANYTHING ELSE!
What does matter, is that the fight actually does take place before both pugilists become geriatric and lose their greatness. Although there have been plenty of reasons to doubt that this fight takes place, I’d like to point out a few reasons that it will happen barring that 2012 isn’t actually the end of the world.
Floyd Mayweather
It’s no secret that Floyd Mayweather believes that he’s the best fighter of his era. He has even grossly assumed that he is the best boxer of all time and relies heavily on his undefeated record to back the claim. But if he wants others, including his own uncle to start believing that, he will need to do a little more in the ring. The logical route in making his claim realistic (to some) would be in defeating Manny Pacquiao. Unless he addresses the 400 lb. elephant in the room from General Santos City, there is little chance he will be taken seriously, even as the best of his era. It’s doubtful that Mayweather can even convince himself that he’s the best, unless he conquers Pacquiao. Because the Pac-Man has uprooted him as ‘pound for pound’ champ and is now seen by some as the better fighter and biggest threat to him in the ring.
EGOCENTRIC PACQUIAO
Although fans generally see Pacquiao as a mild mannered, humble individual, we can also note that he also has an ego of his own. When asked on television show, 60 minutes who he thought was the best fighter of all time, without hesitation his response was, “me.” Of course Manny doesn’t boast as loud as Mayweather but he honestly feels the same way about his all time status as Mayweather does. To erase any doubt in his mind, it is necessary that he defeats Mayweather decisively so he can confirm that he was the greatest to ever lace them up. Many of Manny’s detractors have said that his attempts to capture titles at catch-weights and his selection of aging less than prime opponents remove luster from his victories. But Mayweather can naturally answer all of those questions in one bout. Manny will know without a doubt that he is the greatest by decisively besting Mayweather.
FLOYD’S RETIREMENT MUZZLE
Although Floyd has been out of the ring for long stints at a time, he has not mentioned retirement since the conclusion of his bout with De La Hoya in 2007. He’s only fought three times in the past four years but has not explicitly stated that he is through fighting. This alone gives at least some degree of hope that Manny Pacquiao will likely be a forthcoming opponent. In the recent past, there was at least one serious round of negotiations. Although team Mayweather denies the second round, the topic is inescapable and will continue to be unless either fighter decides to hand them up. The consideration has been there for quite some time with both camps, and with only one major conflict in the way. But could that conflict have already been resolved?
MANNY SHOULD AGREE TO TESTING OLYMPIC STYLE
There is a video that has been floating around for a few months and in it Pacquiao appears to state that he is willing to concede and take the Olympic style drug tests that Mayweather is requesting. If this is accurate, then the main obstacle in the way of this fight has already been resolved. Manny originally would not budge off a 24 day testing window, but according to Bob Arum, he moved to seven days (what is he scared of?) in the last round of failed negotiations and now has opened to window to full testing. Possibly after seeing Shane Mosley get an 18 day testing window versus Mayweather in May (based on a conclusion that he was clean), Manny will gamble with no cut off date, hoping that he is not adversely affected by unannounced testing.
MAYWEATHER’S LEFT HANDED ENIGMAS
And then there is Floyd’s comeback opponent. There were rumors a few months back that Floyd was looking at facing undefeated ex-lightweight (135) Paul Spadafora (45-0-1 19 KOs), who happens to be a southpaw. At some point, left-handed fighters became a perceived kryptonite to Floyd Mayweather’s style, mainly because they have been the only ones to give Floyd serious problems in the ring. He was badly hurt by southpaws, DeMarcus Corley (37-18-1 22 KOs) and Zab Judah (41-6 28 KOs), in respective bouts. There was also a rumor that Floyd’s father called from jail at one point and requested that Floyd be kept clear of lefties to preserve his career. Whether it’s true that Floyd has Problems with lefties or not, there is still irony in the choice of Victor Ortiz (29-2-2, 22 KOs) for his September comeback fight. Victor is a very hard puncher and also a lefty, traits that he shares with Manny Pacquiao. Freddie Roach, Pacquiao’s trainer has even stated that in facing Ortiz, Floyd is really getting ready for Manny.
THE MONEY & THE FAME COMBINATION
With offers reportedly coming in as high as $65 and $75 million dollars, there is no doubt that a bout between Mayweather and Pacquiao gets bigger by the second. There is no event in sports that could equal it on the world stage. When Mayweather reportedly asked for $100 million dollars to fight Manny, it was seen as a joke. But today it is really starting to look more like a shrewd business move than an unrealistic demand.
PEOPLE, EVEN THE SQUARES WANT THIS ONE!
Unlike the Mayweather-Oscar De La Hoya promotion, the world truly awaits THIS bout and the winner could not only be the biggest name the sport has produced since Muhammad Ali, but might even be considered better. That’s an opportunity that’s far too tempting for any man, yes that includes Manny Pacquiao, to pass on or take for granted over a blood test. And barring some unforeseeable event, nothing else really stands in the way.
Jarrad Woods
Please, of course the fight is going to happen! Floyd is just waiting for Pacquiao to slow down. There are already signs of Pacquiao slowing down a bit. Pacquiao was at his best during his fight against Cotto and Clottey. There was no way Floyd wanted to fight Pacquiao around at those times. As evident in the Mosley fight, Pacquiao’s body is now reacting differently to training, hence the cramped leg during the Mosley fight.
The Mayweather camp is looking for another fight after Ortiz, so look for Mayweather to warm up for a fight with Pacquiao around very late 2012 or very early 2013.
Roach is right, Ortiz is a test for Mayweather. Pressure fighters and lefties has always been Mayweather’s weakness, Pacquiao is both. Waiting for Pacquiao to age will diminish the former. It’s too bad we will not see when both were at their very best fighting each other. Imagine if Pacquiao/Mayweather took place a year and a half ago.
Because Manny has been asked who the best fighter of all time and replied “including me?” of course as a fighter who is the greatest othe your self. It wasnt an Ego and i dont see it a factor why fight doesnt happen, it was not an ego. Unlike floyd & mayweathers self proclaiming they are though nobody is asking, and that was a super Ego. And that video posted in the boxing scene is here “Manny is agreeing to a random blood test without limit!
Media1: “Manny, Freddie said a while ago that you agreed to take, no limit on drug test with Mayweather, that there would be no 14 days before the fight, anyday, anytime, is that true?”
Manny: “ Yes, We agree ALL his, ALL his, you know, demand but..? (smiles)
Media1: You put …. (i cant hear it) unlimited… prefight
Manny: Yes, yes!
Media1: No limit?
Manny: Yes, yes!
Media1: Is that your decision?
Manny: Yes!
Media1: Why?
Manny: Because, I want to know if that his really reason..
Media1: If yould never fight mayweather… will it matter to you? or is it the fight you feel want needing your career.
Manny: No, I don’t need him, he need me because compare of my achievement in boxing compare to his achievement…
Media2: Do you wanna fight Mayweather?
Manny: Excuse me?
Media2: For all the fans, If chance arises, do you wanna fight Mayweather?
Manny: Im always open to fight anybody 150 lbs & below..
It wasnt the Blood test & Ego. It was the Mayweather’s NUMEROUS DEMANDS other than that of random blood test… Wake up! This guy (Maynever) just dont want to fight
if i were manny, how can i fight with somebody who keeps insinuating i cheated all the way to this point?
name it what you like but it’s really unfair or simply sign of fear.
I don’t understand the headline. It’s always been “All but done”. It just never seem to get done. Are there any new revelations that suggest the matchup will ever be made or just the usual endless speculation that has never panned out in the past?
Its doesnt mean if Pacman said that he is the best fighter in the world, he really did mean it, look how he smile? Is he really that serious? NOPE!! And he is indeed the pound for pound best in the world, so who else??? Floydie??? Come on, tell baby floyd to ” TAKE THE BEST ” before its too late. JUST PERSUADE HIM!!!
EGOCENTRIC PACQUIAO
“When asked on television show, 60 minutes who he thought was the best fighter of all time, without hesitation his response was, “me.”
I don’t think this writer knows what humility really is. Humility is truth. If you ask Pacquiao if he is rich, he would surely say, “yes” without any arrogance and with great humility, because this is the truth. In the 60 minutes show, he was asked who he thought was the best fighter of all time, and he said, “me” with a big smile, because this is the truth according to his mind. This is what he thinks and they asked him only what he thinks and not what others think. He did not proclaim it as the absolute truth or dogma, but only as his opinion. Christ was not egocentric when he said that He is the Son of God, because this is the truth. Pride is a false recognition of one’s worth or ability. Pride is to proclaim yourself to be what you are not. Humility is to proclaim yourself to be what you really are. Mayweather keeps proclaiming himself as the greatest fighter of all time and this is the very reason why he is so afraid to fight Pacquiao, because if he loses he would turn out to be only the greatest liar of all time. The higher you go up, the harder you fall down. But the humble never falls down, because he always stays on the ground. So please dear writer, never accuse Pacquiao to be egocentric again. Know better the meaning of every word, because your very word can condemn you.
You got some points right,but missed or I should say twisted some points too. Since you’re writing English, let me remind you about the great difference in meaning between “to request” and “to demand”. To state that Floyd Mayweather Jr. was requesting Pacquiao to take the random blood testing is not simply an understatement from you, but the wrong usage of the word. Floyd Jr. was demanding that Pacquiao take the test, yes, he was demanding. Even the Great Marvin Hagler commented- “who is he to make such demand?” referring to Floyd Jr’s demand of random blood testing for Pacquiao. I say too, who does Floyd Jr. think he is? Somebody higher than all the sports commission or regulating bodies of the boxing sport?
Of course Pacquiao got EGO. I got my EGO. Don’t you have yours?
SUPER EGO is very much different. And that is what Floyd Jr. has-SUPER EGO. He has to show people and the whole world how truly confident he is, how best he is, how filthy rich he is, how superior he is. But all of those are actually facade of how really INSECURE he is, not merely in the sport he belongs, but throughout his life. Floyd Jr. has a superiority complex in disguise of his true inferiority complex.
I think this is the first time an article on this site states that Manny Pacquaio has already agreed to take Olympic style drug testing.Floyd has to prove the people wrong now, he really has no choice so a tuneup with Ortiz then he should have all the rust gone from his vacation.Who knows maybe Floyd really is smarter than we think and he walks away from the Pacman fight with more than 50 million!
Mayweather Sr mentioned that floyd need to get rid of cobwebs and not ready to fight Pacquiao, just yet. Another fight after Ortiz should Floyd get pass Victor. This might illustrate that floyd is losing his touch at age 34, going on 35. After all, maywether sr has access to floyd and can easly tell the status of his capabilities. Actually floyd will lose to Vicious Ortiz on a decision, Floyd will be the biggest upset of the upsets this year. Why? An old Oscar was winning by a decision in the first half of De La Hoya VS Mayweather bout. Only reason Oscar lost was because the old man could no longer pull the trigger. Victor is young powerful southpaw and mosley was able to tag floyd. Key to beating floyd is to continue applying pressure with strong repeated hits. Also Victor’s team was able to study berto so that means they will also be able to find Floyd’s weakness and take advantage of it. To many factors against mayweather this time. floyd lose on a unanimous decision.
People who want to see Mayweather fight Pacquiao should not support the Mayweather-Ortiz bout. That’s the way to force Mayweather to fight Pacquiao. If Mayweather does not fight Pacquiao then he has no business being a boxer.
Petronilo,
Stick it where the sun don’t shine! You never “tell” my guys what to say or think.
Ariel,
A Filipino, hah? Had Pac agreed to testing, they would have fought last March. I guess that something that doesn’t resonate with some of you Pacnuts. Had he agreed to the testing, the fight would have been done, he’d have probably lost and he’d be back at 140 fighting the A Mere Con types. It’s Manny’s fault the fight didn’t happen, he wanted a 24 day non testing window. Which is the same, to me, as saying I need time to get off the juice!
F**k, it was signed with the exception of the drug testing. You Filipinos remind me of the people that deny the holocaust ever occurred. Simple minded souls!
Jun Lang, U called my writer a what? You’ll never be seen or heard from again on this site. Posting here is a privilege, not a Filipino right! Adios and bark, bark?
Dave, you make as much sense as George Bush reading “My Pet Goat” during the 911 attacks. Fight would have been done, your guy chickened out and wouldn’t take the tests. Fact, period, end of subject!
Pedro Fernandez your guy is all too demanding, egocentric, woman beater, conceited,coward who has issues with the PACMAN being on top of the boxing world right now..FACT,END OF SUBJECT, PERIOD!
I need to stop giving information for people who doesn’t know how to read
I’m getting tired reading their nonesense post about drug testing
Floydiots uses same excuse all the time
What’s bothering your mind Mr. Pedro Fernandez? Welcome comments on this site and when they are not favorable to you, you dish a mouthful of racist comments? Why hate all Filipinos? What have you against our race? You are not simply referring to Pacquiao’s Filipino fans, but to us all Filipinos. Do you have Hitler’s mind about your race being the superior one?
I dont like people like u Jarrads who misintepret facts for ur own selfish motives. Who told u that “there was an 18 day window in the Mayweather vs Shane Mosley fight”. Journalists like u continue to try to defend Pacquio without facts. I know that u know that Mayweather vs Pacquio was under full testing till the fight day. The fact that they were not tested 18 days before the fight is irrelevent as both fighters didnt know that they were not going to be tested. Thats the randomness of this testing Jarrads and I know u know u know that.
Stop trying to defend this fighter who is cheating using steroids and fighting geriatrics in catchweight fights.
THATS WHY I LIKE PEDRO FERNANDES BECAUSE HE SAYS IT AS IT IS
Mr. Pedro Fernandez:
Your comment “You Filipinos remind me of the people that deny the holocaust ever occurred. Simple minded souls!”
Editor’s note: Lifter was so full of **** he was denied the right to print his novel. For the last f***** time, if Manny Pacquiao had agreed to the tests, the fight would have been over and Manny exposed by Floyd’s speed.
Mayweather NEEDS to fight Pacquiao or he’s going to go down as the biggest fraud of boxing, all time. His uncle says his nephew is the best fighter RIGHT NOW, even better than suger ray leonard. On the same interview, he says it would be foolish for his nephew to take on an active fighter like pacquiao right now, that he needs two or three tuneups after he fights ortiz…How in the hell can you be the best fighter right now, when you need tuneups until your ready to fight a fighter in your weight class or even smaller than you? Thats like saying Canelo is the best fighter right now, but he needs at least two or three fights until he’s ready for pacquiao!
Gosh, these Pacnutards make me laugh. Floyd asked/demanded full random tests from Pac. That’s normal. That’s called negotiations, as normal as Pac asking/demanding a host of things from May (vs just ONE to Floyd). I’ll give you this if you give me that. Floyd might SERIOUSLY believe that Pac is juicing and the sudden KO capabilities exhibited by Pac on much bigger men, when he had problems with smaller ones, justify those suspicions. Another thing that you’ll never understand is Floyd’s genius when it comes to promoting a fight. Millions of you hate him soooooo much that you’ll tune up just to see him being KO’d, or so you wish, so right now he’s “grooming” for his next mega salary. Now, once he knocks Pac out in the 8th round (mark my words) after toying with him, while telling Lampley “I’m having fun in here but enough is enough”, what are you all gonna say? Floyd was much bigger? The blood tests weakened Pac? He had a flu the day before? His wife didn’t give him the …? The truth is that Floyd will have abused your boy (and Fredo the Roach who seems to put himself in his fighters skin more and more).
When athletes make that kind of money, we as fans should be the ones DEMANDING that they take random tests instead of finding excuses for them and believing whatever BS they come up with (I should say Arum comes up with).
I’ve come to believe that Floyd is simply dodging Paquiao. He threw the PED distraction out there and everyone ate it up like pancakes. I think it’s been a lie from the start. Floyd probably doesn’t even care if Paq is on PEDs. He is scared, pure and simple, and was fishing for an excuse, and the media bought it like a bunch of suckers.
What made me come to this opinion?
I was reading an interview with former fighter John Scully and he pointed out how the dollars from this fight are so incredibly high, with each fighter making close to $40 million or more, that the vast majority of fighters couldn’t care less if they watched their opponent gobble HGH in front of them for six months in a row. Like John joked, “You’re on PEDs? Great, want some HGH too?” As long as the check clears. This is enough money to take care of these fighters families for generations.
I think Mayweather is scared. It’s the only reason I can think of to turn down a $40 million payday.
@ Ariel,Petronilo,jjord,Lanski the writter is none bias he/she told the truth when Pac was asked who is the Best boxer Manny lifts his own chair no doubt.A none self proclaimed answer to that e.g. can be Mohammad Ali or any body but himself.Be fair Guys not Bias nor 1 sided.
@Litfer what was Manny doing when he asked for catchweights for world titles? Demanding or requesting? Do u see how much sense your point makes? Don’t let your emotion replace your logic and common sense.
Maybe these can help to materialize the fight (Pacquiao Vs.Gayweather) and eliminate all the accusations (PED’s) and negative rumors, especially the nonsense olympic style drug testing demands that continually blocks the negotiations of the two camps:
Pacquiao-Morales I – March 19, 2005 – 139 pounds… the look, tight and chiseled. Amount of weight gained overnight… 9.5 pounds. (super featherweight)
Pacquiao-Morales III – November 18, 2006 – 144 pounds… the look, slightly wider but still strong and defined. Amount of weight gained overnight… 14 pounds.(super featherweight).
Pacquiao-Marquez II – March 15, 2008 – 145 pounds… the look, same as the fight before. Amount of weight gained overnight… 16 pounds.(super featherweight).
Pacquiao-Diaz – June 28, 2008 – 147 pounds… strong and defined. Amount of weight gained overnight… 12 pounds. (lightweight)
Pacquiao-De la Hoya – December 6, 2008 – 148.5 pounds… slightly stronger and defined. Amount of weight gained overnight… 6.5 pounds.(welterweight)
The point here is, pacquiao is just too patient pushing himself to loose more weight down to super featherweight while he’s a natural welterweight.No wonder why he’s more confident at this weight class (welterweight).
GOT IT ALL PAC-HATERS and PAC-ACCUSERS?
I DO HOPE ALL THE MAYWEATHERS CAN READ THIS COMMENT..
please spread this comment…
@Frank, if you are comparing Andre Berto to Floyd Mayweather and comparing Victor Ortiz to Shane Mosely and that is your reasoning for saying Floyd will lose to Ortiz I don’t see it. Berto is not the Defensive genius that Floyd is and Victor Ortiz (even thoough he is a good fighter) is no Shane Mosley. In My opinion Oscar was Lucky to walk away with a split decision. I think it is funny to hear people say the way to beat Floyd is to put pressure on him. Opponents certainly can’t out box him not that many have tried, so the only other option to try and put pressure on him how has that worked? costillo got close first time only to be out classed the second time,Corrales got stopped, Hatton got put to sleep, Oscar got tired, Zab got tired, and Mosley landed 1 lucky punch only to get embarrassed through the rest of the fight!
Here we go again with the “why not jus take the test?” thing. I don’t think alot of people understand the saying “it’s the principle of the whole thing” and that’s what this whole thing is about, It’s not that taking a few blood will make PAC lose energy or him scared of a needle, it’s the principle of the whole thing. PAC is thinking who is he to demand an Olympic style drug testing when the athletic commission don’t ever ask for one, and if he agrees to it it’s like bowing down to he’s opponent and all that means is Mayweather wins the psychological edge. Now other fighters or people will say “for $50mil I’l take the drug test” again PAC doesn’t really need $50mil or even a $1mil to add to hes bank account, he’s a billionaire in the philippines, he could call it quits now and he’s kids and their kids and their kids are set for life. He’s only fighting because he loves to fight for hes fans.
To buy a Mayweather fight is to empower a racist!!! BOYCOTT ALL MAYWEATHER FIGHTS OR PRODUCTS!!!
This argument is tired. Manny probably will never need to fight Floyd. After he wins the lawsuit for being defamed(the suit is in the tens of millions), he’d have to be an idiot to give Floyd a way for him to make his money back. I am convinced now that this fight won’t happen. Too many bruised ego’s. Maybe Manny should have taken the random tests, but I don’t assign to this theory that because he didn’t want to take the tests that he’s got to be a cheater or “who wouldn’t take the tests for 50 million”. None of the people who say that are multi-millionaires. I am sure a lot of us would be insulted by someone tarnishing your image. In some peoples opinion including mine, I’d tell him to go F” himself. People act like the guy has never taken a test in his life, when in reality he’s been tested in every major fight he’s been in. If people want to say the testing system is flawed THAT IS THE ONLY VALID ARGUMENT HERE. However whether or not Manny is guilty in the court of public opinion or not, Floyd(and his family) is a completely stupid and out of line for making defaming statements in public and on the record accusing Manny of steroid or PED use. Because if he really is on PED’s he ain’t taking no random tests, and now all thats going to happen is they are going to have to pay for their accusations in court,and he will never submit to the tests. Now instead of just not fighting him, they are going to be in a worse position by paying putting more money in the guys wallet. These guys are complete boneheads for doing that. They didn’t need to do that and lack common sense.
Glad this topic came up (again).
Pac fans, Read this and learn:
http://msn.foxsports.com/boxing/story/Performance-enhancing-drugs-remain-threat-to-boxing-061111
Stop hiding from the truth, Pac fans.
SKERGE
Because a Pinoy could be smacked in the face with the truth miss it. Manny Pacquiao can say he is the best, but he knows that in order for that statement to be the truth he must defeat Mayweather. Manny’s Promoter (Top Rank) has him believing the “KoolAid” that he is better than Floyd because the media has him as the #1 P4P fighter on earth and he won fighter of the decade. Manny fails to see that the boxing Media is being influenced by Top Rank. Also, Manny must know that he never took the P4P crown from Floyd. Manny became P4P king due to Floyd inactivity. Many boxing observer still feel Floyd is the better fighter, but have Manny on top simply because he fights more.
Boxing writers pick quantity over quality. They get their hotel rooms and perks and a free trip vegas everytime Manny fights. Why mess with that…
Petronilo,
Humility is not truth, Humility is the state of being humble. Humbleness means not proud or haughty, not arrogant or assertive. If they are teaching you that at church, you need to go to a new one. It’s funny how you make excuses for Pac’s opinion, but what about the opinion of others? A humble person would not make an excuse for a Random test, they would simply do it, especially when they made Many demands on the other person first. I’m not defending Floyd either, I’m just being fair. Something that you need to learn to do.
SKERGE
Pac fans,
Here’s a timeline of the Testing demands by someone other than Pedro (since you chose not to believe him). Read how Team Pac walked away from negotiating 2 times:
http://fighthype.com/pages/content10139.html
SKERGE
Keep Dreaming guys. This fight will never happen. If it will it would be a boring fight since Mayweather would like to fight Manny at their 40′s.
A Commonality between FLOYD and Manny is Catchweight against JMM at 144.
FLOYD did not Honor it and came in over at 146, Will Manny do the same?
Reports are that FLOYD came in at 155 (Middleweight) he was so heavy that he refused to be weighed. Question is will Manny also refused to be weighed in on fight night? Also Sugar Ray Leonard Should be considered the Greatest Catchweight King of All Time since he secured a LIGHT WeIGHT Title at 168 (Super Middleweight) when Lightweight is at 175.
Jesustheprofit: How can a fighter be number one when his own trainer feels that they need tuneups in order to be ready for a fighter in their own weight class, and actually smaller than him?
In his own words, roger says they need two or three fights AFTER ortiz! sounds like he’s not ready, therefore how can mayweather be number one?
Skerge: Your always on Pacs ass about ped use..what about your boy B-Hop? I never hear you blasting him to “take the test”.
ESPECIALLY the squares want this fight. What else is there in boxing if you’re a square? Real fans could take it or leave it at this point. They’re sick of the BS and will believe it when they see it. This should have happened by now.
SKERGE
You are so funny, Skerge! We can have millions of definitions of a word, but it doesn’t mean that one definition is right and the other is wrong.Please explain me that humility is not truth and I will admire you if you can convince me that I’m wrong. You just gave me other definitions of humility and you judged my definition as wrong simply because it is not according to your definitions.Please research all the definitions of humility and all shall boil down to the fact the humility is truth. Anyway, never use again the same word as the one being defined like you say, “Humility is the state of being humble.”This may be a right definition, but a bad one.
You say, “A humble person would not make an excuse for a Random test, they would simply do it, especially when they made Many demands on the other person first.”
I think you should have said, “An idiot person…” and not “A humble person…” because it doesn’t make sense. To be humble doesn’t mean you have to do whatever they ask you to do.That is why I say that humility is truth, because you have to know what you ought to do and not what they ask you to do.Besides Pacquiao already did a great act of humility by agreeing to the random test which he is not obliged to do.(please read well the article above).
If you are not defending Floyd, who are you defending? Pacquiao? All you said here is against Pacquiao and in Floyd’s defense and you say that you are not defending him.Please be honest to yourself and be honest to us.
You are just being fair? To whom are you being fair? To be fair is to give to someone what his due.Did you praise Pacquiao for the good things he has done? Did you criticize Floyd for all the bad things he has done? To be fair is to praise what is good and to condemn what is evil.God is fair that is why he sends the good to Heaven and sends the bad to Hell. Now, please Skerge, tell me what makes you think that you are fair?
You are right, I have to learn to be fair… please teach me how to be fair by showing me that you are really fair… Peace be with you, my friend!
I hope Floyd steps and takes the fight. I don’t know how many of you really know this but many fighters take PED’s at one time or the other. The skill comes in getting off of them in time to be able to have a clean test. MMA fighters get caught all the time. Josh Barnett, who is fighting in Strikeforce this weekend has been caught at least twice as an example. Not criticizing anyone here just telling it the way it is.
Shut up you guys… The situation is simple.. FLOYD IS AFRAID OF PAC..! thats all,, why are you guys making this more complicated..??
Mayweather will never fight Pacquiao. Pacquiao already knows that Mayweather is suffering from some kind of brittle-bone disease (let’s hope this is non-contagious for the sake of other boxers). All those fancy defensive turtle-moves developed by Mayweather over more than a decade is designed precisely to protect his brittle bones from very hard punches. WORSE, if Mayweather loses to Pacquiao, the entire extremely arrogant Mayweather clan will be UNEMPLOYED. Their employment and saliva have value only because Mayweather has not been brutally beaten yet.
What’s up against a Pacquiao who knows about this disease? Pacquiao has proven, adamantium-coated knuckles. He can easily jackhammer Mayweather’s eye sockets and spare ribs into a hundred splinters. Mayweather is fast — but he is not particularly quick. There’s no way he can avoid those jackhammer punches in his face against Pacquiao. NOBODY was ever able to that, and Mayweather also happens to be past his prime.
Indeed, if that under-trained Ortiz would be smart enough to prepare for Floyd’s grab-and-stab technique that scores no points to paying patrons but is somehow awarded by points by ring judges, he can easily win the fight.
The trick is when Floyd grabs you, you counter-grab him more fiercely MMA-style. You can easily damage his elbow and wrist ligaments and bones this way. Floyd has the bones of a 60-year old man. Floyd has been very successful in his con-jobs precisely because none of his opponents have punished him very severely for grabbing and stabbing. NO EXPERT IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD CONTEMPLATE THAT FLOYD CAN BEAT PACQUIAO IN A 100 PERCENT PUNCHING AND ZERO GRABBING SCENARIO.
This olympic type of test is all BS!!!!Its not even required by boxing commissions cause they already have rigid drug testing procedure. Its so funny to note that of all boxers thats been choosen to fight Pacquiao, its only Mayweather that is asking another test, this only shows that FMJr is soooo damned afraid of Pacquiao. End of Story.
Man you guys are like a bunch of Fu345ng children. At this point in time, Bob, Pac, and Maywether can all shove this fight up their as#! Excuse my french Pedro, but you know how I feel about this matter. I don’t give a rats’ anymore. The powers that be let this go too long and now people like me are pissed off. I don’t care at this point. Keep it! Plus if the fight wasn’t made, I wouldn’t have to listen to all the little bitch sesions that these babies demonstrate when someone insults their “precious fighters”. It’s a little anoying and child-like. On top of that, there is a thing about letting a fight “perculate too long”. You can have a fighter lose in the meantime (ala Jaunma Lopez and Gamboa) or people and other fighters and networks eventually say “who gives a fu#k, let’s move on. There are ALOT of other great fights that can be made out there, so I’m focusing on reality and no more fantasy. Now that I’m done ranting, I fully expect someone to say “your only saying that cause your’e a fan of so-in-so”. Cmon, act like babys for me and cry some more.
Ronel – Filipino ka? Takot si Floyd kay Manny. Tama?
Pinoys do not ser the light if stare at them in the face. Pacman fears the word “random”.
Still a lot of people cannot understand or see how Mayweather makes excuses… I hope Dirk Nowitzki, Dwayne Wade and Lebron James will have a random blood test also before the recent NBA Finals…
Skerge… Why are you a believer of Mayweather “The woman beater”. Family of a criminals and drug addicts?
I just hope that the “prediction” of Jarred will happen. Whoever wins will stop all these nonsensical accusations.
There will be no more pacnuts or gayweather, nor pactards or gaynever. Although I am sure loser will become whiner, and the winner can now be called the greatest of all time.
It is not nice to read comments that are racist, comments against the nationalities involved. It will be GRAND to see this most hyped fight become a reality.
Manny never wanted to fight Mayweather it was his fans pushing him to do such.When Mayweather asked for OST it gave Manny a way out the fight! He ran and fought Clottey,then he gave Floyd a deadline he knew Mayweather would ignore.The fight could have been made years ago if Manny would have accepted an simplerequest.To say Floyd is afraid to fight someone ” he ” believes is cheating without random blood test is like saying Manny is afraid to be tested out of fear he’d get caught dirty.I don’t get the idea Floyd has to beat a man with 3 losses and 2 draws to be considered the best of this era.I think beating Manny does nothing for his legacy.It’s just people trying to add magnificence to Paq and his crude style of fighting.Manny needs to beat Floyd to prove who’s the best,not the other way around.Manny is P4P by default and would have never surpassed Mayweather on the list-if he didn’t retire.Robinson would be MORTIFIED to see Manny holding the title created in his name.
You know what really gets to floyd is that he can’t seem to come to grips with reality knowing that someone other than himself can be that good, so there goes the excuses, the way I see it, if you think Manny is afraid of you floyd make the manly move and say Manny lets get it on, and who wins can truly have their name wriiten in history as the best there was , is and maybe ever will be. Floyd if you think you are better than Alli then be brave as Alli and fight anybody. PERIOD!!!
Sorry guys neither of these two guys will ever be considered the GOAT. Both these guys have dodged the best out there. Mayweather has been doing it since his first fight with JL Castillo (I am surprised he is taking on Ortiz though) and Manny has fought nothing but bums since his close call against JMM. The resume looks good until you see where the fighters were at the point of their careers. Manny would have never fought ODLH when he was in his prime, hell he wouldn’t even fight Cotto unless there was a catchweight against a fighter who had been brutally beaten two fights before. Arum would never have put Manny in with fighters in there prime he has to much invested in him. I’ll say this again Black/Mexican fighters come a dime a dozen Manny is Asian and no disrespect they are not on the same level when it comes to boxing. All asians follow Manny not just filipinos it’s a huge untapped market. Arum is an evil genius. Think about it 8 yrs to make a trilogy. Why? I know because JMM is pushing 40 so it’s hard to defend Pac fans when they make stupid comments about Floyd waiting for Pac to get old. Isn’t that Manny’s MO?
You guys have a reading comprehension problem. The writer said that there is a tape going around where PacRoid allegedly states that he’ll take random testing. He never told the Mayweather camp that during the negotiations. This guy Ariel is one of the few people who makes sense here. The only people I ever known of to bitch about a drug test were drug users. But you guys hate floyd do much that you wouldn’t even mind seeing him lose to a cheater. Please kill yourselves!
Manny has never asked for anything that is not accepted in boxing. Manny has placed no demands on Floyd, which maybe he should have. Would you want your blood drawn days before the biggest fight of your life? Of course not. That’s all Manny has ever said. That is why it is not done under the Boxing Commission. It can weaken the body. That’s what Floyd wants – a weakened, slowed Manny.
Floyd doesn’t want his face reshaped like Margarito’s or Cotto’s, and he doesn’t want his faculties altered like Hatton’s.
Floyd has always picked opponents he can beat – that’s just how he is.
Floyd will try to delay the fight as long as possible to slow Manny down.
Manny should retire, it’s Floyd that needs Manny, not vice-verse. Otherwise,
Floyd will go down in history as a fraud.
Will Dehn,
Manny Placed nor demands on FLoyd? Are you serious? Manny asked and received every demand he wanted in the 1st negotiations with Floyd, and all FLoyd asked for was Olympic Style Random Drug Tests, and Manny said “NO”. The “Commission” said Random Tests were subject to bargaining, and Floyd would be taking the same tests. You say: “That’s what Floyd wants – a weakened, slowed Manny.” – So, Manny didn’t want that with Cotto? Or with Margo? Or with Martinez (Pac said fight at 150), or with Mosley (waited to get old) or JMM (again, older and smaller). Then you say; “Floyd has always picked opponents he can beat – that’s just how he is.”
Funny, because Manny picked Hatton, DLH, and Mosley AFTER Floyd beat them first.
I’m not even a FLoyd fan and I can see the Truth.
SKERGE
1200 Techs,
B-Hop leads an exemplary clean lifestyle out of the ring. He doesn’t gain more than 10 lbs between fights, and the man even chews his food with his chin down. If you suspect him, or think he may be using PED’s, then you ask him. Why not take it to the NSAC and ask them to require OSRDT? Then force all the other states to require it too. We know all of Pac’s fights will end up in Texas if you do that (they require NO testing). Lead that crusade, and I will follow.
SKERGE
Pac Fans,
I don’t see any of you refuting the articles I posted. Do you choose to remain ignorant of the truth, or do you just not comprehend well?
http://msn.foxsports.com/boxing/story/Performance-enhancing-drugs-remain-threat-to-boxing-061111
http://fighthype.com/pages/content10139.html
SKERGE
Torm Amazon,
I’m not a believer of Floyd, I just agree that the current testing sucks, as experts have pointed out, and that Olympic Style Random Tests should be instituted across the board for all fighters. This isn’t baseball where you are hitting a ball. In Boxing, you are applying blunt force trauma to render another PERSON senseless. I hate to say this, but the message may not get to Pac fans until someone dies in the ring and it is discovered that the opponent was “ON” some PED.
SKERGE
I’m so sick of hearing and not seeing them fight.
My two cents – Manny knocks Floyd out.
Mayweather ties up when pressured. He’s never been pressured, or hit as hard as Manny will.
This is based on Manny being able to match Floyd’s speed.
Can’t wait to see it happen.
Skerge,
Good articles, but why should you direct the topic to Pac Fans?
You assume that Floyd Mayweather is clean, and doesn’t have any trace of drugs in him?
First ; This Fight will happen . Unfortsunately , we should already be discussing the outscome of the Rematch . There will be no Triogy – more on that later .
Second : NEITHER guy will ever be considered GOAT ; that belongs to Ray Robinson .
In fact neither guy shouold currently rank above 20th of all time fighters on any Legimate List : While every list varies on their Top[ 20 , these two guys are not ready for that , yet .
Third : OSDT with RBT is not the Future – this technology is available Now ! Just because the NSAC doesn’t recognize it yet , does not mean that a better test is available now . Imagine waqtching the Summer Olympics , and judging the 100 meter Dash . Instead of state of the art electronic timing , let’s pick the winner by ” One Mississippi , Two Mississippi ….. ” ! If a more accurate test for cheating is available , WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF ????
Fourth : The Money : Too many b.s. stries are planted out there with bogus numbers and offers . And too many people are ready to swallow these stories as facts . Get a grip on yourselves ! The real deal will come – albeit more later than sooner .
Fifth: The Blood Tests : Everyone on THIS side of the planet is familiar with donating blood , by the pint . A RBT will draw two or three vials of blood at a time , each one 10 ml . A pint is just over 473 ml . What fool believes that this teensy omont weakens you ?!
( Please pardon the typo’s from my recent comments – will try not to leave a mess behind . )
Fifth ( con’t. ) : 10 ml is a little more than .001% of a pint . If that weakens you , you don’t belong in boxing , you belong in intensive care ! ( namely : a b.s. excuse ! )
Sixth : Testing for PED’s can and should be done up to three days Before the Fight ( to guarantee the fighter fights clean , and is not cycling out of drugs ) and , of course within an hour immediately After the fight . Naturally , this testing is for both fighters , not just one . Who’s afraid of Testing ? ( PLEASE , not the ” I’m afraid of needles ” excuse . )
Seventh : The outcome : Here , I am offering MY opinion ( not one of those “humble” ones , either ) : I see Floyd winning by UD , taking 8 or 9 rounds ; Pac will chase him and rarely catch Floyd ; Floyd will counterpunch Pac , and frustrate Pac in every round , using his amazing and superior defensive skills that make him a Master in the ring .Will he KO Pac ? I sincerely doubt it . Will he lump him up and smash him , like Pac did to Margarito ? I definitely doubt that ! However , I predict that Floyd will tire him out , forcing Pac to chase him and throw tons of shots that will miss : those missed shots will expend energy , and in the later rounds , I can see Floyd knocking Pac down , as the chase becomes desparate . Talented as the Roach is , you can’t train a guy to become faster than his opponent : This is fast(Pac) vs Faster (Floyd), and faster will always win .
Sorry : The Trilogy : Never gonna happen . Once again , MY Opinion : Floyd wins both the first and second fight , very convincingly . Only those living on the Other Side of the planet really want to see Pac-Floyd III .
I could hqve commented on who fought who , their common opponents , who fought who first , and “leftovers” , but that’s been out there for such a long time , that either you accept the cold , hard facts or you create facts of your own .
It’s just a shame that getting a ticket for The Fight will be out of range for most of the True Fans – hardcore and casual alike – but that’s a story for another time .
Ira, a vile is quite a bit of blood, and i wouldn’t want them poking needles in me while I was training for a fight. this idea that it’s not a lot of blood defends on who you are talking to. No other sport in North American does these tests. Not saying they shouldn’t be done, however it isn’t really fair that only one guy should be scrutinized when no one else in the sport is doing the tests either(besides mayweather and thats a plus in his favor)
Manny will never be the best even if he defeats Mayweather, some smart ass critic will have a reason to downplay his greatness. However if Mayweather wins he definitely will be declared the greatest because of that what the western public wants, theirs to be the greatest and no one else. We have no doubt Manny can easily beat Floyd Mayweather and him being just one of the best with Boxing, we can not lay claim to that because we never believed Floyd is part of that list unless he gets the nerve to step in the ring with Manny, then maybe we can give him the respect he needs.
owlinger,
Floyd has already had a fight while using OSRDT procedures, while Pac has not. That is why I direct the message to Pac fans. Does that make sense to you?
SKERGE
“I’m so sick of hearing and not seeing them fight.
My two cents – Manny knocks Floyd out.”
If Manny can catch up with him!!!!
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Yq0Kszc3fRY/S1Ah1B9qdyI/AAAAAAAAALM/b9fBRIV0LJI/s1600/Mayweather+Chicken+Run+Manny+Pacquiao+Bob+Arum.jpg
Skerge: Thats the thing..Pac takes pretty good care of himself year round as well..Maybe not as much as bhop but recently Bhop refused to take random osdt and lawyered up when accusations were against him..I have nothing aginst that considering his whole reputation he worked so hard for can be tarnished with such accusations and the FACT there is NO evidence against him. I just think its unfair to throw one guy under the bus and not others when” suspicions” surround them as well…
I am an Aussie and would like to see the contest between two great fighters. Will it happen? Most likely not. I think that Manny would have to retire and then make a comeback. Once Manny retires, Floyd will then say that he backed away from the fight and will have the chpice to shut up or actually sign on the dotted line. I cannot see Floyd ever shuttiong up
You people need to chill out and stop fighting. Let Pac and Mayweather do it. None us can fight that fight. The reason WE ALL want to see the fight is because no one knows how it will play out. It’s 50-50, both guys have trouble with the other guys strengths. Pac has trouble with counterpunchers that can take a punch, Mayweather is maybe the best and quickest counterpuncher and he can take a shot (on the few times he has been hit). Of course Mayweather struggles with southpaws and Pacs the best southpaw. More importantly Pac shoots his left straight, not looping or roundhouse. Mayweather’s underestimated jabs and straight rights to the body with bother Pac.
Stop being racist too (Pedro). Don’t be mad cause Mayweather and Pac beat all your latin fighters. This fight is about boxing not ignorant jobs. Stop being computer tough guys and talk real boxing
Why only asking for blood test when Manny was at Welter Weight already…. Cleaning the sport? How about his 1st 40 fights??? Because I’m really SKERGE, I mean scared..!!! Correct Ira??? And guess what, Manny has already agreed for this crazy, out of this world “Random blood test” up until fight night! And sh*t will be coming out on Floyds pants…
I will only fight Ortiz once Manny has already sign another fight this year -Floyd
For Pedro Fernandez: Not all Pacquiao fans are filipino. Gayweather never intended to fight Manny. Drug testing was just an alibi. Is he doing what? why ruin Manny’s name in so many bad accusations? Is it for Marketing strategy? Im so sick of you Pac haters out there. I was actually a big fan of Floyd but I had enough. He is a joke in boxing. I will never buy his fights again, unless he faces The Real Pound for Pound King Manny. Floyd Jr is a big bullcrap.
Why dont we do this? All Manny’s fans go in one arena and all mayweathers fans come also. Lets all fight? then we will see who wins. 90% of People will go to Manny’s side and the 10% comes to Mayweathers one. lol I’ll take 1% percent out of 10 Just me alone. Hahahaha… Then will see.
Just fight Pacquiao and we will declare you as the greatest even if you lose.
Pac doesn’t need to fight Floyd if lost to Ortiz. Pac will instead fight Ortiz. Pac not that stupid, as Pac said” If you pass Ortiz then we’ll fight.” All Ortiz need is his patient and not to quit till the end. Ortiz can outbox Floyd and will strike Floyd’s body and face while on the rope intelligently and patiently.
This is the opportunity for Ortiz to fight Pacquiao of a lifetime, to beat Mayweather. Mayweather is a high maintenance boxer like a girl who complain evrything. Wait Ortiz beat him, Floyd like Berto will accuse Ortiz of PED after losing the fight.
1200 Techs,
How do you know how good Pac takes care of himself between fights? I’ve seen Pac balloon up between fights. If Pascal was serious about the tests, he should have asked for it during negotiations. Why didn’t he? Bernard lawyered up AFTER the fight. Again, had B-Hop refused during negotiations, then I would say something was up. So what do you say, Are you going to start the crusade for OSRDT? You have a supporter here if you do.
SKERGE
Torn Amazon,
Clever, with the I’m SKERGE… Scared thing. Just like Pac fans say they don’t believe Floyd will fight Pac until he is in the ring with him, I don’t believe Pac will take the tests until he signs a contract saying that he will, and then takes them. You say:
“I will only fight Ortiz once Manny has already sign another fight this year -Floyd”
What you forgot to include was;
“I will only fight the younger, stronger Ortiz once Manny has already signed to fight a smaller, older, JMM who by the looks of his last 2 fights, looks like he is getting long in the tooth.”
SKERGE
Skerge: Manny’s walk around weight is around 150-155. That’s hardly balooning up in weight..I do have to say he did look a little bit chunkier recently in between fights. Here’s an interesting article regarding Pacquiao’s bone strcture:
http://www.badlefthook.com/2011/3/15/2051585/boxing-science-how-manny-pacquiaos-body-has-tricked-analysts-and
The reason why the Mayweather clan accused him of cheating is to play mindgames with Pacquiao to make him out of focused with emotions. They know that the personality of Pacquiao is very unassuming and quiet. (culture of most Filipinos). Little did they know that Pacquiao is smarter to sue them with a defamation lawsuit. Imagine if Pacquiao was not accused of cheating, some of the doubters will be non-existent except of course Lil Fraud and his clan and will generate more revenue in all his fights? This is the main reason why Pacquiao must be firm with the lawsuit because false accusations must be dealt with accordingly. Truth will prevail and when the final verdict is rendered, Pacquiao will be richer and Lil Fraud will go broke.
mayweather is just buying time!!waiting to pacman slowing down!!will you be able to hide steroids if your tested after the fight???common sense gayweather fans!!wait til they meet and yul see your idol all busted up !!if manny throws a thousand punch to a gentleman fighter like shane!!he might be giving fucking floyd 5x the volume!!do you see what he’s done to margarito!! manny will send him to retirement for his arrogance!!
Some of us are getting off the track here . This ongoing defamation lawsuit will play itself out in a court of law . What I am interested in is the ring – not the courtroom . Besides , What measure of damages culd be awarded to Pac over acuusations of using PED’s ? First , he is considered a public figure in the American courts , and, as such , is mostly immune from defamation . Secondly , what damage ? Pacuiao is everywhere : earning vast varieties of income in addition to boxing revenue , and his options just continue to grow . How are these PED remarks “damaging” , and how could you measure by $$ – Where’s the loss of income from these remarks ? ( GETOVERIT !!!)
Now , back to boxing – which is whay we are here – Fighting clean is a legitimate concern for Mayweather . Pacquiao rises in weight classes , is getting bigger , older , and yet , he is able to throw more punches per round , and more power punches per round . Ask someone who is neutral – not me – and they will tell you that this raises eyebrows and concerns . Reality Check : Pacquiao WILL fight Floyd , and WILL submit to OSDT with RBT – GUARANTEED . Anyone who submits to these demands would be a Fool to not to go “clean” and remain clean thereafter . I will reserve my remarks until that time , as we watch Pacquiao reach or struggle to reach 147 lbs.
As for KP : Pay Attention !! A vial of blood , for testing , is typically 10 ml . A pint of blood is just over 473 ml . Two or three vials will be drawn each time , extra , just in case a fighter claims a ” false positive ” . Relatively speaking , a pint would be a lot of blood for testing purposes . Two or three vials at a time is NOTHING !! Once again , PAY ATTENTION !!!
1200 Techs,
I’ve read that one already. That’s why I think it’s funny that Team Pac asks for catch-weights, when Pac can clearly make the weight. I find it suspicious that Ariza has Pac on that high calorie diet. Now you have Ariza defending the ballooning of Chavez Jr to 180 before the fight claiming he Hyper-hydrates fighters. I’m no trainer, nor do I claim to have the education in Nutritional science and exercise Ariza has, but I’m educated and can do research. First of all, the science behind it is not exact, and it is also deemed dangerous in many academic circles. I read Ariza’s post on it in the MP8 website and it looks a lot like one of the articles I read. Before I call plagiarism, I’m going to compare and contrast them. BTW, when does the crusade start?
SKERGE
This fight will happen on 12-21-12 for sure. You’ll see!
Skerge: I’m with you in regards to a cleaner sport and better testing but I’ll tell you, i have no idea where to even start.
Fights don’t take place during that part of the month sir. Your crystal ball needs Windex!
I know all you boxing fans are all upset about the Pacman vs Floyd, it’s all a head game ! You fans on both sides can’t see it ! Give it a rest ! I have never heard so must hate between fans before in my life ! Don’t worry about it, God wants to see the fight too, he will make it happen, not you ! So everybody calm down !
Ron
1200 Techs,
Start with the NSAC. Get an address and e-mails and draft a short letter template that fans can just fill their info in and mail or e-mail. Do the same for HBO, as they technically are promoters. Then move on to U.S. Senators who backed the Ali act. The Gov is finally working on cleaning up College FB and PED’s in baseball, so with enough pressure, they can look into Boxing too. You can highlight the rampant PED use in the UFC as example. Point out all the MMA fighters who have been caught, as well as those in Boxing.
That’s what I would do If I had time. Again, you lead, and I’ll follow. I’ve already laid out a plan.
Thanks.
SKERGE
Ok sporting fans here is the real deal. Who cares? Why are we still beating the dragon on these two? Both fighters are over the hill in 2012, and many including myself look at it as a suckers payday at the expense of the boxing followers to watch a shit fight of two fighters who were at the top of their games in their primes. Manny definitely has not looked like he has over the past few fights, slowing down, knee problems, and handspeed as shown recently in the lopsided fight of a grandpa like Mosely. Now a third rematch with JMM. Unfortunately, there is nobody out there to give Pacquiao a good test, even on his decline. But, Manny must keep fighting for the million dollar payday as who can blame him. Therefore, it must be nice to collect a paycheck when knowing you had no chance on winning like Mosely had. Mayweather, on the other hand of course, must deal with ringrust issues, taking on less than quality opponents, and almost being dropped by a Mosley right hand that would have been dodged at the height of his defensive game. You don’t continually box, nor fight people that can keep you tuned up and sharp, your skills begin to diminish. Welcome to being human and not a supernatural. So, to make a long story short, why are all of you wanting this fight? Give these assholes a $60 million dollar payday at your expense for a shit fight that has no bearing anymore on boxing history. A fight which should have happened years ago. A fight I mock if ever stages. Give them a huge paycheck so they can waltz off in the sunset laughing. This fight should be stopped as it is disraceful. The sanctioning bodies are to blame as boxing has become more WWE than anything during the past decade.