Comments on: DO TITLE BELTS MATTER? THE DEBATE RAGES! http://ringtalk.com/do-title-belts-matter-the-debate-rages Sun, 05 Sep 2010 23:27:38 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Antonino http://ringtalk.com/do-title-belts-matter-the-debate-rages/comment-page-1#comment-1188 Antonino Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:05:23 +0000 http://ringtalk.com/?p=806#comment-1188 Stick, That would be great. I recall when Ali was stripped of his title a disgraceful act, yet it had one upside--a very interesting elimination tournament putting the contenders in against each other--Patterson, Quarry, Bonavena, Ellis, etc.--which raised some interest and produced some good bouts. If this were a regular feature (and covered by HBO or Showtime or even ESPN 2) it would also familiarize marginal fans with the real talent. Stick, That would be great. I recall when Ali was stripped of his title a disgraceful act, yet it had one upside–a very interesting elimination tournament putting the contenders in against each other–Patterson, Quarry, Bonavena, Ellis, etc.–which raised some interest and produced some good bouts. If this were a regular feature (and covered by HBO or Showtime or even ESPN 2) it would also familiarize marginal fans with the real talent.

]]> By: StickItIn http://ringtalk.com/do-title-belts-matter-the-debate-rages/comment-page-1#comment-1093 StickItIn Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:21:32 +0000 http://ringtalk.com/?p=806#comment-1093 Let's say there was a single organization and a single champion. Let's also imagine the ratings were unbiased. Great. Now, how often should he be expected to defend? Every 6 months? If you're a boxer who just cracked the top ten you could be waiting 5 years to get your shot at the title. If you want to compare it to tennis then do it like tennis. Instead of the Australian Open, the US Open, the French Open, and Wimbledon we have the WBA Open, the WBC Open, the IBF Open, and the WBO Open. It's just like an amateur tournament. You enter into a bracket. You don't make weight, you're out until next time. You get an injury, you're out until next time. No negotiations over money, the prize money per advancement is set. You win, you get the bigger purse, etc. Go ahead and let me have it. Let’s say there was a single organization and a single champion. Let’s also imagine the ratings were unbiased. Great. Now, how often should he be expected to defend? Every 6 months? If you’re a boxer who just cracked the top ten you could be waiting 5 years to get your shot at the title.
If you want to compare it to tennis then do it like tennis. Instead of the Australian Open, the US Open, the French Open, and Wimbledon we have the WBA Open, the WBC Open, the IBF Open, and the WBO Open. It’s just like an amateur tournament. You enter into a bracket. You don’t make weight, you’re out until next time. You get an injury, you’re out until next time. No negotiations over money, the prize money per advancement is set. You win, you get the bigger purse, etc.
Go ahead and let me have it.

]]> By: BLK http://ringtalk.com/do-title-belts-matter-the-debate-rages/comment-page-1#comment-1073 BLK Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:25:29 +0000 http://ringtalk.com/?p=806#comment-1073 belts really don't matter. many title fights don't live up to their expectations and the champ is in there just to "not lose" the belt. the champs aren't alway exciting to watch. also, records don't hold as much value as they should. how many times have you seen a young prospect get matched against a a marketable veteran e.g. emmanel augustus, and get the decision but clearly lost the fight? promoters protect their stable and judges carry out the promoter's orders. belts really don’t matter. many title fights don’t live up to their expectations and the champ is in there just to “not lose” the belt. the champs aren’t alway exciting to watch.

also, records don’t hold as much value as they should. how many times have you seen a young prospect get matched against a a marketable veteran e.g. emmanel augustus, and get the decision but clearly lost the fight? promoters protect their stable and judges carry out the promoter’s orders.

]]> By: Antonino http://ringtalk.com/do-title-belts-matter-the-debate-rages/comment-page-1#comment-1064 Antonino Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:01:20 +0000 http://ringtalk.com/?p=806#comment-1064 The belts are also a good ploy for spousal politics. "Yes, honey, I know Kramer vs. Kramer is on tonight, but this is a CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHT!" The belts are also a good ploy for spousal politics. “Yes, honey, I know Kramer vs. Kramer is on tonight, but this is a CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHT!”

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