COMPARING PACQUIAO TO MAYWEATHER!
November 11th, 2009 By Kevin Perry
Los Angeles, CA- Considering the enormity of Manny Paquaio’s popularity in his homeland of the Philippines before his unexpectedly easy victories over Oscar De La Hoya, and Britain’s Ricky Hatton, a win Saturday for the 49-3-2, 37 KOs, Pinoy over Puerto Rico’s live underdog WBO welterweight (147 lbs) champion Miguel Cotto (34-1, 27 KOs) could propel the superstar into becoming an iconic figure not just in boxing, but throughout the entire world as well. Currently featured on the cover of the Asian version of Time Magazine, the former flyweight (112), super bantamweight (122), featherweight (126), jr. lightweight (130), lightweight (135) and jr. welterweight (140) titleholder proves he is awful close to achieving that status. The Filipino’s greatness is also accompanied by entertainment value, which shines in comparison to the other fighter who many recognize as boxing’s ‘pound for pound’ best, Floyd Mayweather (40-0, 25 KOs).
ONE WORD DESCRIBES FLOYD’S STYLE: BORING!
While Mayweather continues to bore the masses with his safety first style, although effective, it just can’t match the excitement “Pacman” brings to the sport of boxing. While the majority of fight fans pay to see the arrogant cry baby Floyd get knocked out cold, Paquiao has a style that aficionado’s can appreciate; an athlete willing take risks and face the best in their respective trade. Win or lose the two are both future Hall of Famers. The undefeated “Pretty Boy” has beaten a wide range of foes, as well as the Filipino. The arguments continue as to who is the better fighter today, but the bigger question is who will be remembered as the more accomplished prizefighter when their ring careers end. With a win Saturday Paquaio can stake his claim as the fighter with the more impressive resume, but even with a loss this weekend he still has a good argument that he’s already reached legendary status. Let’s compare the resumes of the Paquaio and Mayweather.
Mayweather’s Notable victories.
130 lbs- Gernaro Hernandez, Jesus Chavez, Diego Corrales, Angel Manfredy.
135 lbs- Jose Luis Castillo (x2)* HBO’s Harold Lederman scored their first fight 115-111 for Castillo.
140 lbs- De Marcus Corley, Arturo Gatti.
147 lbs- Zab Judah, Carlos Baldomir, Juan Manuel Marquez, Ricky Hatton.
154lbs- Oscar De La Hoya.
Paquiao’s Notable Victories.
122 lbs – Lehlohonolo Lebwaba, Nedal Hussein.
126 lbs- Marco Antonio Barrera.
130 lbs-Eric Morales (2x), Juan Manuel Marquez, Marco Antonio Barrera, Oscar Larios.
135 lbs-David Diaz.
140 lbs- Ricky Hatton.
147 lbs- Oscar De La Hoya.
Notable Losses/Draws.
126 lbs- Draw Juan Manuel Marquez.
130 lbs- L 12 Eric Morales.
$64,000 QUESTION FOR FIGHT FANS
Whose resume is supreme?
Kevin Perry
its clear gayweather has more notable victories compared
to packy. it goes to show why gayweather wants to be a
no.1 pound 4 pound fighter. we can only determine whose
the best if the two will meet in the ring.
Manny Pacquiao is the best!
Manny Pacquiao’s! So, do I get the $64,000.00 now?
pacman has better resume,
he conquered best fighters in differnt division,
and that’s seve division so far..
lil floyd you’re just a boooring..
if floyd wants to be remembered, he must fight the names like
pacman, mosely, margarito or cotto.
Manny pacquiao is the best now! fighting mayweather is nothing..because manny already achieved his goal..no question about that..
LUCKY ME SUPREME!!
Definitely the better resume is Manny Pacquiao considering that he fought the best in each category. More impressive are his victories over dela hoya and hatton who are supposed to be bigger opponents and excellent skills.
PACQUIAO – NIKE ENDORSER,POLITICIAN,ENTERTAINER,BUSINESSMAN,SINGER…
You forgot to add me to the list.
Chatchai Sasakul
I believe that MP has a supreme resume over PBF. PBF must fight the best to be a THE BEST.
COMPARING PACQUIAO TO MAYWEATHER?
It is like comparing apple to rotten tomatoe.
Kevin,
The Pacman fought better/quality opposition than Floyd and wins each fight convincingly!!
who did Floyd fight? Baldomir, Gatti, Manfredy,Judah (was winning had he not run out of gas), diego C. was his best opponent. So you see, he cherry picked and he was the pound for pound king by default ‘coz he was the closest to it. For floyd to be equal with Manny, he has to knock out a champion at 154lbs. and 160lbs. Floyd taking a risk??? absolutely not. he picks on smaller and guys he know he’ll win.
I think Manny Pacquiao has a better resume, due to the fact that he is willing to fight the best and face them head on. Mayweather Jr. despite his enormous boxing skills is so boring to watch and his character is very unlikable. Manny Pacquiao is a real gentleman but a beast inside the squared circle. He also fights more well known boxers of his era. Mayweather Hmmmmmmmm!!!! Let the people decide.
Pacman has a more impressive resume. He fought against future hall of famers in the likes of Barrera, Marquez, Morales, Dela Hoya, and probably Hatton. He is eyeing for a 7th title for seventh weight classes, a feat that no one, at present, has a chance to have except Pacman. While Mayweather remains undefeated, he however, avoided several opponents is his division like Mosley, Margarito, Cotto, Williams, and Berto. He instead fought Marquez who was way below his weight class. Worse, he did not comply with the catch weight agreement against Marquez. He simply is not a fair fighter. Unlike King Pacman, he fought the best of his weight classes, and still eyeing for more.
The fighter who pole axed more future hall of famers in a more significant fashion has the more supreme resume. This is NO BRAINER if you look at the data herein presented by Kevin Perry and the history behind those W’s [victories].
Okay, for the benefit of those brains still running with Pentium I processor, the clearer superior fighter P4P is MANNY PACQUIAO.
Mayweather is a great boxer, nothing can take that away from him.. But to be a boxing hall of famer you should take the risk, not picking oppenents who you know you can easily handle in the ring..
Paquiao has tremendous boxing skills as he moves up in weight, he has accepted the challenges/risks in all the weight class he has been,thus, in the end rising his hand as a winner. No one ca take that away from the Filipino star..
Both of them are excellent and exciting figthers, but nothing has more happy to see, is when Paquiao is in action, he’ll made you up in you toe’s with the king of fight he puts in the ring..
We know and everybody knows that Paquiao-Maywhether fight would definite the most anticipate and exciting fight. Fans would greatly wanted it to happen to once and for all know who is the best POUND for POUND fighter in the world today..
Pac fought Hall of Famers. They are legends. Mayweathers resume fails in comparison to the Pacman.
still pacman!!!
Why are you comparing pacquiao to mayweather. He has achieved greater than that of mayweather.. comparing him to the all the greats mas sense.
Of course no other than the pacman…He’s not ducking anyone, unlike the boring gayweather
i think its goin to be manny pacqiuao because of the risk percentage he is willing to take just to have a good fight. he proves he want to be the best thats why he is fighting the best. mayweather wants to be safe and is taking fights that he knows he has the advantage of winning
You should have put the way they won and what round, that way we can REALLY compare how boring mayweather is…
pacquiao!!
PACMAN A TURE LEGEND!!A BETTER RESUME!!
I pick pacman’s resume as supreme.
First; Pacman had fought consistently on bigger foes starting from morales, diaz, hatton and dela hoya.
second; the first pacman vs. marquez..it was actually pacman by split decision coz an intentional error in scoring was admitted by the paid judge.you can always contact the judge to fair and objective.
third; the first pacman vs. morales was full of tricks the reason why morales was able to survive coz if not for the winning gloves and if pacman was not only subjected to blood extraction 2 days before the bout..morales would have been knockout in the first bout..you can always take a second look at history again to be objective.
lastly; pacman, unlike mayweather had never demonstrably duck anyone of his size in his entire career.
pacman no end story……..
Without doubt, Pacquiao will be remembered as the greatest prizefighter that Mayweather or anybody else. His fighting style is exciting and not boring one. He’s also simple and humble unlike Mayweather.A QUALITY OF GOOD EXAMPLE ATHLETE.
It’s not even close. Pacquiao is supreme. Mayweather lost to Castillo, and fought smaller guys at his weight. Pacquiao moved up from 122 to 126 to fight Barrera and he destroyed him. Moved up to 130 to beat Morales, Moved up to 135 to beat Diaz. Moved to 147 to beat Dela Hoya. I don’t know if people realize how hard it is to move up in weight and fight guys already established in that weight class.
Resume wise… We are really staring at a fighter who fights Class A fighters with Hall-of-Fame careers…. Manny really chooses fighters he knows he can defeat with his style. Those fighters are really great fighters. Since his loss again Morales no he is on a rampage killing and killing and killing foes after foes after foes. It is like watching Guan Yu slashing the heads off of enemy’s generals and war lords…
i thnk pacquiao has the edge coz he ko a lot of hall of famer while mayweather win mostly on decision and he do not engage a lot in the ring, adding on to his resume if he wins on cotto a 7th division champion.
Mayweather was great,his opponents less greater, and he beat them all.
Pacquaio was less greater than all his opponents, but he beat them all.
Definitely it’s MANNY PAQUIAO.
Manny it’s like a professional who finishes from Elem -HS-College-Masteral-MBA-Doctorate degree. (from Flyweight to Welter and possibly up to Light Middle Wt.)or equivalent to Eight (8) Division Champion which is the only figther can accomplish that level.
While Pretty Boy can only finish up to college level but not even a board passer, he’s like a valedictorian or cum laude but never passed the Board Exam with lot’s of excuses because they don’t believe in licensing or taking the board and just contended finishing collge with honors.
MAYweather can’t even fight a legitimate welter and the more he cannot fight at middle weight.
But just wait till Manny fight a real middle weight and we will realize that Mayweather is not a great figther only a good figther.
MANNY PAQUIAO is a good example of being so GOOD TO being so GREAT. if we want a good boxing in the future let’s give the credit to the likes of Paquiao and let’s not polish or protect the like of mayweather because the more he will think that he is already the best where in fact he is the position of ” Comfort zone” that leads to complacency and remains to be boring. Let’s think about boxing future we need more class A paquiao than class B mayweather. Can you imagine having more mayweather i think boxing will die forever and UFC will take over…let’s support boxing and let’s critize the mayweather type if we want to survive boxing…
At the early stage of his career, Mayweather is very good. But as he goes up in weight, those power in his punches decreases that he failed to carve a knockout victory against a fighter same his weight. He then wisely managed ducking elite opposition and dangerous fighters cherry picking only those marketable but beatable opponent below his natural fighting weight. On the other hand, Pacquiao, back in 1999 won a world title at 112 lbs. He only lost the title due to weight issues. His body started to grow then and can not meet the 112 lb limit. He was poorly managed that he was not able to secure a world championship fight at 115 and 118 lbs not until he came to America for his second world title at 122 lbs. As he continue to grow up, he keeps on challenging fighters in higher weights and conquer the best fighter dominating division after division and now holds 6 titles in as many weight classes. Being undefeated will not bring you to greatness. Plenty out there are undefeated but they are not even a world champion. It’s because their winnings is a fluke. Greater are those who experienced losses in trying to face the most formidable opponent brought in front of them. Pacquiao resume is very much better than Mayweather.
Pacquiao’s resume.
manny defeated legends and he’s always the underdog…mayweather defeated class b fighters…
Pacquiao of course…You’re forgetting chachai sasakul- flyweight.
for me both fighters had incredible resume i bet even. but the thing is manny is more impressive fighter hes more challenging his own capabilties as no.1 fighter. the other guy mayweather plays now a days safer opponent no more impact hes adopting wrestling the unreal thing. boxing rules
im a floyd fan but pacquiao is too entertaining to be behind floyd! all sane people knows PAcquiao is better than floyd!
though am a Filipino whom one of the many Manny Pacman Fans same has the SUPREME RESUME compared to Money Floyd Mayweather, reason,Manny has earned what has it take to be a super boxer.
No doubt… MANNY PACQUIAO is the “Greatest Pound for Pound Fighter of All Time”.
i think pacquiao’s edge is the quality of his opponents and the drama of each fight he has been through. And the humble beginning of manny against pretty boy makes him better
Kevin, as a huge boxing fan since the ’80s I give Pacman a huge advantage in quality of opposition. Floyd’s biggest victory against a live foe was against Diego Corrales (RIP) and it still suspect due to Corrales being drained. I also give him credit against Zab. Pacman, on the other hand, has fought many a talented opponent that was either his size or even a little bigger.
I love Pacman but he goes down vs. Cotto. Still, his greatness when compared to Money won’t diminish one bit. Also, if Floyd wants to be an inmortal, let him fight Sugar Shane.
Pacquiao’s resume is supreme simply because he beat 5 future Hall of Famers namely morales, marquez, barrera, hatton and dela hoya.
Mayweather only beat 3, (marquez, hatton, dela hoya).
Jesus Chavez, Diego Corrales, Angel Manfredy, Jose Luis Castillo, De Marcus Corley, Arturo Gatti, Zab Judah, Carlos Baldomir, Ricky Hatton are all good fighters….but when you look at their careers, are they really hall of fame fighters? I really like Corrales, Castillo. and Gatti. Entertaining? Yes. Great? That can be debated. The most skilled fighters on Mayweather’s ledger are Hernandez and Marquez. I have to put an asterisk next to Marquez here because of the weight difference.
Eric Morales, Juan Manuel Marquez, Marco Antonio Barrera are all real hall of fame fighters. Pac fought them all multiple times, for the most part coming up in weight to do it. Sure he lost or drew on two of these fights….but he takes on greater challenges.
Manny will be Manny and Floyd will be Floyd. Manny defeated some better champs too, but Floyd is better known. After all,Floyd will have no problems in dealing with Manny. I wish Manny all the best in his Cotto fight. But he shouldn’t dare Floyd. His ass will be whooped and made look like an amateur.
im american but on this i wont go with mayweather ,ill go for pacquiao he is the guy taking more risk and fighting notable fighters bigger than him…
I am boxing fan & boxer & I think we can spot a excuse of a fighter when we see one & yes I mean PGFM man this guy should not be allowed to fight the fighters he has only to line his pockets with unworthy money & cause futher damage to the sport. Now MP is a true warrior & P4P champ for the ages & can truly be compared to likes or Ray Robinson, Ray Leonard, Duran. For PrettyGay FloydGayfethr to even attempt to compare himself to Manny or any of the others mentioned above is disgusting. All Floyd does is use boxing to make $ through the easisest fights possible, lets see him take on fighter he is not sure he can defeat & maybe he will change the opinion of those who see him in a negative light.
Basically, “Ricardo and new era’s” comment are true to their words’ Simply for a boxer to be great, face the greatest and a hall of famer! Dela Hoya is for sure a hall of famer, while Marquez i think could be but questionable, and hatton is out for a future hall of famer, while on the other side Pacquiao beats the hall of famer the likes of Barrera, Morales and Dela Hoya.They beat them all with flying colors, came from below their weight. Obviously, Pacquiao has an excellent resumae, a “NO FEAR” attitude should be the basis for a big time fight, Not a COWARD PICKING OUT boxer of GAYWEATHER., your being undefeated is for nothing!!
Manny is a fighter that I always want to see. Mayweather is not a fighter, an opportunist who happens to box in the ring. I don’t like an opportunist.
I didn’t forget his win of the Flyweight title, his resume is so good, I didn’t feel it was worth mentioning.
The difference between these is that most of the fighters on Mayweathers list might be notable, but half of them were way past their prime and not the elite in the division when it was fought:
Castillo- Anyone who saw the first fight know Castillo won.
Demarcus Corley – Is a gatekeeper at best and far from an elite fighter.
Arturro Gatti – One of my favorites but far from an elite fighter
Zab Judah – Was coming off a loss
Baldomir – Was definitely not elite and there were real challenges that he avoided (Margocheato)
Oscar De La Hoya – Far Far past his prime and was still a close fight
Hatton – Moved up win weight
Marquez – Moved Very up in weight.
Mayweather has only fought two fighters that were on the top ten pound for pound at the time of the fight being Marquez and Hatton which Mayweather had a size and weight advantage.
With paquaio he has fought Marquez 3 times, Barrera twice, and Eric Morales 3 times, Ricky Hatton, and now Cotto. This means the guy has fought 5 fighters who were on the pound for pound list a total of 9 times. Third Morales fight Morales was not on the list. You can’t compare the level of competition between both Mayweather and Paquaio. Mayweather stopped being a fighter in 2002.
Wow! Do ya think this article is biased? Holy crap. Where to begin? Well the neither of the guys at 122 lbs are what I would consider elite. (never heard of them). Eric Morales won against Pac the 1st time around. The other times he was CLEARLY on his way down, losing pretty much every fight afterward. Pac lost to JMM, but the judges called it a draw. (most boxing scribes had JMM winning) David Diaz is not elite, loses to every elite fighter he faces. Ricky “Hit me” Hatton, just walks right in with hands down, not moving his head. (Taylor-made for a slugger) And Oscar was drained down to a weight he hadn’t made in years. (See Freddie Roaches comments) Oscar was a shell of a shell of his former self. Money May in my opinion is superior. Also, Pac get ko’d in 9 by Cotto.
To Michael on November 12 at 2:15. A couple of points. Some people thought that Castillo won against Mayweather in their first fight. But that’s because Mayweather broke his hand early in that fight. To avoid any confusion, he fought Castillo a 2nd time and decisively defeated him. Gatti may have been far from elite, but that won’t stop him from being a first ballot hall of famer. Oscar was past his prime, but he was straight garbage when he fought Pac, because he was not only old, but extremely dehydrated, and older than when he fought Floyd. Nobody bothers to mention that when they talk about that Oscar/Pac fight. Also, Floyd threw 100 less punches but landed 80 more. The judge that scored that fight for Oscar is out of his mind. Hatton moved up in weight 1 weight class. Also, he’s known to balloon up to around 200 lbs between fights. PBF fought at Hatton’s weight class just 2 yrs before their fight. JMM moved up in weight, but PBF had been retired for 2 yrs, and most considered JMM to be the 2nd best fighter in the world. The weight talk is nonsense. Usually the smaller man has the advantage in fights. Common knowledge, buddy.
Just because you’ve never heard of them doesn’t mean they weren’t the top ranked guys in their division at the time Pac fought them. When did you start following the sport? Last year? I am sure most people today ccan’t name more than two elite fighters at the lower weights anyways….David Diaz only had one defeat before he fought Pacquiao so you don’t know what the hell you are talking about…Biased?…I laid the facts out there for you to decide, doesn’t seem biased to me. I’ve heard all the arguments before, Hatton fights with his hands down, Oscar was weight drained, Morales was washed up and past his prime..blah, blah , blah. No one was saying that stuff before the fights. It’s not like Pacman has been picking on smaller guys. I just want you to look at the facts on both sides and be fair here. Both guys are great and you can make a clear argument for either guy, but don’t go out of your way to dismiss Pacman and hold Mayweathers nuts. Floyd deserves the criticism he gets, regardless of how great a fighter he is.
1twocombo says,
“Usually the smaller man has the advantage in fights”. Is this guys serious? Your boxing credibility has truly been diminished.
Been following boxing longer than you, son. And just because the 2 lil guys were at top of their divisions doesn’t mean they’re elite. There are a lot of guys with a lot of wins on their records and they ain’t worth a damn. The 1 defeat Diaz had before Pac was to a less than elite fighter in Kendall Holt. He has since then lost to Pac and not fought any other elite fighter. OVERRATED. The article is biased considering you want to say that he lost to Castillo in the first fight, not mention that his hand was broken and not say jack about all of the over-the-hill fighters that Pac faced. It’s funny how people give Money May crap about fighting fighters like Oscar and Hatton, but Manny is unquestionably p4p because he fought Oscar and Hatton. You’re a hater, and clearly biased. Takes notes from a veteran, rookie.
By the way, that “blah blah blah” you were mocking me about in your previous comment? Those are called facts. I don’t care what people were saying before those fights. Look at the facts. The smaller guys thing is just stupid. Now you sound like a rookie. The fact is, in most boxing matches the smaller guy has the advantage. Don’t mean to sound like I’m dismissing Pac, but I feel like people are making him out to be more than he is. He got most of his fan fare in the last 2 fights, which were taylor-made for him. He’s a bad ass, just not the #1 p4p. I think everyone will see that when Cotto knocks him out.
The question asked was ”Whose resume is supreme?” Not which fighter has more skills, more exciting, or a better fighter. Based on the records of each, Pacman’s resume is supreme to Floyds. Floyd is an absolute talent and one of the most skilled I’ve seen in some time but he ceased being a fighter that challenged himself many years ago. Floyd could be considered the supreme ”business man”!
Michael,
You’re an idiot SIR!
U knock Mayweateher for fighting Hatton yet commend Pacquaio.
hahahahahalololololololol
You’re a tool sir.
Let’s break this down & shut u the hell up.
Demarcus Corley – elite figher at junior welter who had a title…..you’re a hater if u call him a gatekeeper.
Arturro Gatti – elite and a HOF
Zab Judah – Doesn’t matter if he was coming off a loss….The FACTS are u village idiot is that Judah vs PBF was pne the biggest fight in boxing & the biggest at Welterweight. PBF took care of his business and Judah didn’t yet PBF gave the fight the fans wanted which was vs him & Judah bc Judah was the CHAMP at the time the deal was made.
Baldomir – Baldy hadn’t lost a fight since 1998 when he finnally lost to floyd in 2006….that’s 8 years dummy and PBF didn’t even WANT this fight…..he was all set for a fight with Corey Spinks who was bigger & had more skills than Baldy but the public like they do with all PBF opponents gave PBF criticism for not wanting to fight him so PBF takes the fight & wipes Baldy clean.
Oscar De La Hoya – It doesn’t matter if De La Hoya was past his prime, PBF fought him at his NATURAL weight, his gloves & his size boxing ring…….wow you are a silly little boy.
Hatton – It doesn’t matter if he moved up in weight either…..the point is the biggest fight in boxing was made at the time from a junior welter, the same weight class PBF was at 2 years before when PBF fought Gatti.
Marquez – # 2 p4p fighter in the world
The problem with you Mike is that you’re a hater & PBF is jsut tooo good so wehn he makes good/great fighters look avergae haters like u say he hasn’t fought anyone. See, astute boxing fans know boxing & can appreictae the sweet science, tools & haters like u think every fight should be a knock out slug fest & if it isn’t then the fight was easy.
LMFAO!you!
Mayweather b/c Pac has taken some Mayweather scrap fighters like De La Hoya and Hatton and Mayweather resume does not contain the “Notable Losses/Draws” category. Whoop!
And dont forget about the 2 body shot losses of his career that is also on his resume.
KP,
I suggest you study the sport before you write about it. Here’s a Teddy Atlas quote regarding PBF’s victory over JMM:
“fighters that have moved up like Mickey Ward, Pernell Whitaker, Roberto Duran, Mickey Walker, or the great Sam Langford, these guys had superior hand speed and solid chins. The smaller guys moving up were smarter, they were faster; they were slicker, than the big men they fought. So when the smaller man who enjoyed these advantages moved up THEY HAD ALL THE ADVANTAGES EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE SMALLER.”
There’s a free lesson for you buddy.
The sad thing about Mayweather fans, and I don’t want to dismiss his talent, but those that hug his balls because he’s undefeated fail to realize in their puny brains that if I fought my sister 30 times I’d be 30 and 0. Get the point? Quality fighters, who challenge quality foes consistently eventually lose…What if Pacman decided to fight Israel Vasquez and knocked him out. He’s number 5 pound for pound. Would Pacman get any credit for that? I don’t want it to appear that I favor either guy here, but the Mayweather fans are so damn delusional is makes my head hurt. Also there’s one thing to win a fight, and there’s another to be impressive doing it. Doesn’t Pacquiao deserve credit for the way he beats his foes? I know that Mayweather isn’t big puncher and is a boxer by nature, but that doesn’t change the fact he fought a smaller Marquez, made him move up two weight classes and didn’t even have the stones to TRY and go for a knockout. It’s obvious the guy isn’t a risk taker, both with his selection of opponents and the nature of how he operates in the ring.
Now that doesn’t necessarily mean Pacqiauo is has the better resume, thats for you to decide. It’s quite a toss-up, but there has to be a reason Floyd gets so much criticism for who he decides to fight.
I think Floyd has ran out of opponents to fight, I think it’s time he retires. Then I won’t have to hear from his moronic fans anymore. In his mind he will never get the credit he feels he deserves. If Cotto wins he’ll probably find a reason not to fight him. If Pac wins he’ll fight him because he’s smaller, probably win because he’ll stink the joint out and not even think twice about engaging at all, run around the ring land one or two shots here and there and go on the defensive. I don’t watch boxing to admire how well someone ducks and slips punches, or runs around the ring. There’s more to the sweet science than defense and ring generalship. Sorry the guy just doesn’t entertain me. Unfortunately while I admire his skills, and I give him credit for being a great business man, he’s not the great entertainer that he so very much desires to be.
Corley, Judah, Baldomir, and Gatti….just used in a comment for argument sake on Floyd’s behalf….come on now!…be serious. To be an ”elite” fighter you have to clear out the division you’re in or be a dominant force in it for some time or have defeated elite opposition. None of the aforementioned fighters were truely elite. Gatti was an exciting fighter but was referred to as ”elite”? I don’t recall the public being critical of Floyd for a potential Corey Spinks show down ….that would have been a very competative fight….but we got Floyd and Baldi. There is talk of Floyd adding Salita to his resume!!! I actually enjoy watching Floyd and respect his game but how can anyone defend his resume over the past several years. I enjoyed watching him fight Corrales and Castillo….they posed a threat. The Hatton and Marquez fights were a foregone conclusion…..unless people bought into the media hype for building their fights with Floyd.
1twocombo,
I agree with what you are saying but don’t try to take his words out of context too much. I heard that statement. What he also said was that Mayweather had all the advantages, size, speed, and power. A good big fighter beats a good little fighter pure and simple. That’s why I think Floyd beats Pacman, and that’s why I think Mayweather is reluctant to fight other top welterweights. I think highly of Floyd but I will not defend him for fighting a smaller Marquez, then not honoring their agreement of the catchweight. I give him credit for beating Hatton, but I will not demean Paquiao for beating Hatton or De La Hoya. If De La Hoya was weight drained, that’s on him, if Hatton has no defense that’s on him, but they were completely dominated. If Floyd’s hands were damaged against Castillo you can’t blame Castillo for that. And to comment again on your point, the smaller fighters you mentioned are all-time greats,that being said that’s probably why Atlas is picking Pac to win Saturday. But to say smaller fighters “usually” have the advantage in fights is misleading. Maybe you meant to say a great little man against a good big man usually wins, then I could agree with you, and I think that’s the point Atlas was trying to make. So if there was a misunderstanding there I apologize.
Screw apologizing to him KP. He is a Mayweather nuthugger, period. 12combo, let us know the success rate of cruisers going to heavyweight, welters to middle, etc. How did Tito do against Hopkins?? De La Hoya vs. Hopkins?? I could go on and on to make a simple point against your moronic view of smaller fighters having all the advantages. Mayweather is faster, hits harder, better defense, better runner, better everything, BY LIGHT YEARS, over Marquez. Anything else you say looks stupid.
Back to your original question, KP. Mayweather, when at 130 and 135, was on his way to all-time greatness. I truly believe after Castillo beat his ass, and yes, he did WIN that fight, Mayweather decided to fight safety-first, not only with style but opponents. When he ran out of paper guys to fight at welter, the only guys left were Mosley, Margarito, Cotto, and Williams. Hence, he retired, rather than face the best. I don’t blame him, because he KNEW one of them was going to beat him. Why else would he retire???
Guys, I know pbf is arrogant and is on everyones bad side but…. He’s UNBEATEN!!! He can’t be hit!! He doesn’t tire… He takes a punch( if u can land one on him)! He’s slick! Has lateral movement! Has the BEST defence I’ve ever seen!! Sure he’s cocky but guess what…. He looks to be unbeatable and I doubt manny or Cotto can beat him.. Juan m Marquez looked tiny next to him… And he’s bigger than pacquiao!!! Not to mention… Jmm beat PAC …. TWICE!!!! U don’t believe me? Watch the fight, go on youtube ull see… So my conclusion, mayweather beats pacq or cotto easily!!
I respect the hell out of Mayweather’s abilities and his accomplishments but Pacquiao’s resume is far more impressive IMO. Bottom line, he’s just fought tougher opposition, consistently, than Mayweather has. Two fights with Juan Manuel Marquez, three with Erik Morales and then went on to face guys who were of FAR greater size… And he didn’t win all of those fights!
Since Mayweather fought Corrales in January, 2001, he’s faced good opposition, very good opposition but he has not faced the very best available opposition to him since Corrales.
Bottom line, you can ask people who they think Floyd should have faced that he didn’t and you are going to get a list that reads pretty damn long. Pacquiao? — People can’t do that with.
corley and gatti were elite fighters????
these floyd fanbois make me sick
Is Floyd featured in Time Magazine? He isn’t because he’s not a great fighter. Manny will Pac his Packy face when they meet in the ring. That’s for sure. He he he.
I wanted to see Pacman-Mayweather fight on April or May 2010. I believe he will never let the opportunity of kicking Mayweather’s ass! He needs one hard reason to let go of the 2010 election.. hehehe! I hope he will not enter politics..
Mad respect KP. You’re a class act. My apologies for the conversation going left. Richard you’re a jackass. I couldn’t tell you about those fights. But I can tell you how RJJ did against Ruiz. I can tell you how Hopkins did against Tarver. I can tell you about how De La Hoya did against all of the bigger champions he beat on his way up when he won his championships. It’s not being a nuthugger if you give a man props. 90% of the people on this board hug Pac’s nuts. But as soon as someone says something positive about Money May bitches like you talk trash. If you look at my previous post, I said that Pac is a bad ass. The quote from Teddy Atlas backs mine up. I take his word over yours any day, chump. Pac proved me wrong and whooped Cotto. And so I’ll give up even more props. But please don’t be a hater. Mayweather has accomplished a lot. And that’s not something you can take away.