SIGNORELLA ON MANNY PACQUIAO-JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ 4!

December 6th, 2012 By John Signorella

STORIED RIVALRY COMING TO END SATURDAY

War

New York, NY- For the fourth time in almost a decade, “pound for pound” elite fierce competitors Manny Pacquiao (53-4-2, 38 KOs) and Juan Manuel Marquez (54-5-1, 39 KOs) will once again battle over 12 or less welterweight (147) rounds at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada, Saturday at 9 PM ET on HBO PPV.

 

MANNY’S PATH OF DESTRUCTION

Since his “coming out party” massacre against Marco Antonio Barrera (W TKO 11), Boxing Writers Association of America’s “Fighter of the Decade” Manny Pacquiao is the first boxer in history to win a staggering eight world titles in eight different weight divisions. Considering the level of opposition he has faced: thrice scrapping with Erik Morales (L UD 12, W TKO 10, W KO 3), three times going to war against Juan Manuel Marquez (D 12, W SD 12), and by pounding out one sided drummings over world renowned pugilists such as Oscar De La Hoya (W TKO 8), Ricky Hatton (W KO 2), Miguel Cotto (W TKO 11), Joshua Clottey (W PTS 12), Antonio Margarito (W UD 12), and Shane Mosley (W UD 12), Manny’s ring endeavors have proven to be credible accolades in support of his status as an all-time great and living legend. Yes, even factoring in his last effort; a horridly scored 12 round controversial points loss to Timothy Bradley.


 

Pacquiao (right) rips Cotto (left)

CLOSER LOOK AT PAC MAN

Many of “Pac’s” victims have been systematically broken down by “master” trainer Freddie Roach’s pre fight observations. Roach’s fight plans consist of strategies and tactics which are usually executed with relative ease by Pacquiao resulting in emphatic victory for the Filipino phenomenon. During such conquests, Manny has shown his own brilliant ring intellect by displaying an ability to control a foe by making an opponent fight his type of fight. On the contrary, (as seen in the early rounds in his bout against Cotto), Manny, (on occasion) can get caught up in the heat of the moment, become distracted, deviate from his predetermined fight plot, (but to his credit) make the adjustments necessary to beat his opponent at their own game. Pacquiao’s unique style is a hybrid of aggressively fast paced boxing accompanied with sound defense. In consideration of his overall attributes of speed, power, movement, and genius boxing IQ, (at his best) Manny Pacquiao may not only be the game’s most complete fighter, he may be the most dangerous. Albeit as suggested by several commendable media outlets in regard to his involvement in movies, music, religion and politics, Manny may be “burning the candle at both ends” and possibly losing some focus toward the hurt business of boxing. With his lackluster performances of late, evidence of that theory is beginning to show.

 

MARQUEZ: STILL AMONG THE BEST?

Prior to his failing bid at “pound for pound” greatness against the mighty Floyd Mayweather Jr. (L UD 12), Juan Manuel Marquez fought two epic wars with Manny Pacquiao. During that display of violent pugilistic brilliance, Marquez survived a total of four knockdowns, three of which happened in the very first round of their first encounter. Amazingly; Marquez fought back and managed to earn a draw. Knockdown number four came in the second bout, which ultimately led to Juan losing by just a point. In his next affair with Pacquiao, the popular consensus was: if Juan was able to do what he did best in the previous bouts without hitting the canvas, he’d win easily. It happened. Marquez put forth a stellar performance, however (to most experts and fans) the Judges made a huge gaff and awarded Manny the victory (L MD 12). Despite the disappointment to Marquez, throughout the 36 hellacious rounds that spanned three fights with Pacquiao, Marquez became the only boxer to really give the “Pac-Man” issues over the past decade. In addition, Juan Marquez is a vastly experienced craftsman who holds a multitude of impressive wins over such warriors as Marco Antonio Barrera (W UD 12) Joel Casamayor (W TKO 11), Rocky Juarez (W UD 12) Juan Diaz (W KO 9, W UD 12) and Michael Katsidis (W TKO 9).

 

Marquez (right) thrashing Casamayor (left)

A CLOSER LOOK AT MARQUEZ

Many of Marquez’s “big fights” have turned out to be “old school” brawls displaying intestinal fortitude which  produced drama unparalleled to just about anything else seen in life. Juan is a consummate professional and master at his Mexican style of boxing. Like his counterpart, Marquez also enjoys the brain trust of one of boxing’s most dedicated scientific trainers in Nacho Bernstein. In addition to all of those aforementioned attributes, one of the more astonishing qualities of Marquez is that he comes to fight equip with what I call the “Hell code”: meaning Juan tries to take you to Hell and if need be, he’s willing to go there with you and is well aware that only one of you will make it out. The “Hell code” is a rare trait not possessed by many in the difficult sport of boxing. The legends that have fought successfully with this code of conduct are a special breed of animal; Marquez is surely one of them.

THOUGHTS AND PREDICTION

Over 20 pounds gained in weight since their first encounter, both men have offered new approaches to their already cemented craft of destroying their adversity. The question that looms here is how much these adjustments will affect the outcome of this battle. Training camp footage of Marquez has shown that perhaps this time at the 147 pound limit, a win against a “top dog” in the division looks more feasible then the first time he traveled north against Mayweather (where Marquez was visibly smaller than his opponent). Preparation coverage of Pacquaio in the media has displayed a more focused and concerned version of Manny coupled with a sense of urgency from his team to prepare for war unlike recently seen in his last couple of affairs. In other words; Pacquiao and his camp are not taking Marquez lightly. On the technical side of things, in their first three contests: Pacquaio has shown to be the more powerful boxer while Marquez has shown to be the better tactician in the ring. But this time around, Marquez may be the overall stronger man due to his recently documented intense preparation and hunger. Based on that evaluation; I feel if Marquez brings his vastly educated boxing skill to the “dance” while being able to call upon his seemingly newly found strength to stay on his feet (and possibly take Pacquaio off of his): I feel Marquez has a great shot here to not only beat Pacquiao, but knock him out.

John Signorella

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

COMMENTS

  1. Bradley did beat Pac. If you break the rounds down by the minute you will see that Bradley outfought Pacm and won a close decision

    brad on December 6th, 2012 at 9:53 AM
  2. I Respectfully Disagree. They gave Bradley the win, but he didn’t do enough to win that fight.

    Ride on December 6th, 2012 at 11:30 AM
  3. With all the sub plots to this fight the ped accusations all the talk of the knockouts I feel on Sat we will get the same fight these guys have given us three times before and If Manny doesnt get a knock down and its close I feel the judges are going to give it to Marquez this timesimple as that…..then again????

    Rio001 on December 6th, 2012 at 1:08 PM
  4. Ride,

    I respectfully disagree with you. I can’t find 1 round where Pac fought the whole 3 minutes. Pac didn’t do enough to win the fight.

    SKERGE

    SKERGE on December 6th, 2012 at 2:24 PM
  5. From CompuBox website:

    You are right Skerge, Manny didn’t do enough to win the fight. He did MORE than enough to DOMINATE the fight. Are you Bradley’s brother?

    Richard on December 7th, 2012 at 9:44 AM
  6. Let’s let Pedro decide… Pedro, who won the fight between Pacquiao and Bradley?

    Ride on December 7th, 2012 at 11:53 AM
  7. Richard,

    How clever of you. BTW, what is your definition of DOMIINATING? I didn’t see Bradley knocked out or even knocked down. What I did see was Bradley starting the round with a punch to Pac’s face & closing the round the same way. I saw Pac look bewildered and unable to pull the trigger. Are you Pac’s brother, or his illegitimate son?

    SKERGE

    SKERGE on December 7th, 2012 at 1:47 PM
  8. Skerge,

    I see, Manny has to completely destroy, knock down then knock out an opponent to SCRAPE by. When Compubox as you landing at a 2-1 clip in both total punches and power punches, that is domination. But hey, myself and 93% of everyone scoring the fight for Pac must be senile. By the way, Margarito made it to the bell. How many rounds did you have The Devil winning by?

    Richard

    Richard on December 7th, 2012 at 7:21 PM
  9. Why is the topic of convo here mostly about that AWFUL fight between Pacquiao & Bradley??? Here is my opionion (if we must go back to that $hit show) They BOTH lost and so did fans and so did the sport in…that fight sucked. Instead of evaluating the past (which is easy as hind site is 20/20), take a chance, learn from the past; and predict the future! Hence, what are your thoughts on this encounter?

    John Signorella on December 7th, 2012 at 10:52 PM
  10. Hard to imagine a k.o. buy jmm. Pac has a granite chin. JMM does a great job of overall controlling pac. Not really sure why pac decided to box him more in the third fight. Pac looked like he was hesitent a bit in attacking. If pac cant bring it and allows JMM to “think”, look for the mexican master to finally win one in the judges minds. Problem is, I think Pac will go back to his aggresive self in his seek and destroy mode, thus becoming less predictable in his attacks. His constant head hunting (like he did in the third fight) along with trying to box with a better boxer will not serve Pacquiao well. Speed will be a factor in this one which Marquez will be a tad bit slower carrying that muscular build. I think Pac has less distractions this time around, got up for this fight (more so than the Bradley fight…Pac looks more in shape) and will make JMM fight more often, giving him less time to think,one which plays out similar to fight number two, where Marquez hits the canvas, but this time a tad bit more convincing.

    1200 Techs on December 8th, 2012 at 12:43 AM
  11. Sorry John,

    Back on topic. If Manny shows up in the same shape and mindset as he did for Bradley he will lose 115-113. I spent some time watching their third encounter, and much like 1 and 2, come away with Marquez is fighting the perfect fight, and Manny can change things just a hair to make this fight easier. I might be in the minority, but am going with Pacman to stop Marquez in round 9. This, mind you, knowing full well Juan’s bulking up to actually fight more aggressive is a complete crock. We will see the same fight, Manny stalking, Marquez moving back looking to counter. As KP said, Manny looks the winner during the fight, and Juan the survivor.

    Richard on December 8th, 2012 at 9:49 AM
  12. John,

    Total FKN props for having the balls to call it JMM by KO. Nacho tipped their hand when Roach and Pac called for toe-to-toe action, and Nacho said it wasn’t possible because Pac doesn’t fight that way. He jumps in and out, and Ironic that JMM KO’d Pac into next week by using the same punch Pac dropped JMM with in the 2nd fight (although with the opposite hand), the overhand right.

    SKERGE

    SKERGE on December 9th, 2012 at 1:14 PM
  13. Richard,

    How can you call yourself a fight fan & believe Compubox? Have you ever compared their numbers to an actual fight? Have you ever read their policy on counting “landed” punches? I call BS on Pac needing a Kdown or KO to “scrape” by. Pac gets every close round on most judges cards & that’s a fact. I bet you called last nights fight a Draw. Also, KP is cool, but he’s been on a down-slide on predictions.

    SKERGE

    SKERGE on December 9th, 2012 at 1:21 PM
  14. 1200 Techs,

    Sorry my friend, but you were totally wrong. I really didn’t care for this fight, so I give you credit for putting your prediction in writing. Who would of thought JMM focusing on the body with that left hook, dipping down, and shooting that over-hand right? JMM and Nacho set the perfect trap. Until next time.

    SKERGE

    SKERGE on December 9th, 2012 at 1:24 PM
  15. Skerge: I was way off about not getting k.o’.d ….that was a perfect trap he set up! jmm is super calm under fire and pacs plan to overwhelm was working until boom! he let off that dinamite!

    1200 Techs on December 10th, 2012 at 11:02 PM

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